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    New Pool Build in Miami

    Hello Everyone!

    Finally chose a PB this week and updated my signature!

    Here's a few before photos:

    A nice empty yard


    Looking toward the house


    Our pool design


    - - - Updated - - -

    And already a hiccup. Utility companies are marking the underground lines and so far electric and phone are located in pool area.

    Swimming!: 19x32 IG rectangular pool, 22,500 gallons; 3' - 6.5'; open spa w/ 6 jets; raised wall w/ 1 sheer descent and 2 minijets, 2 color-changing LED pool lights, 1 spa light; Jandy 2 1/2 HP 2 speed Pump, Jandy cartridge filter (320 SQFT), Diamondbrite Cool Blue

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    Re: New Pool Build in Miami

    Welcome to the forum jro!

    Look forward to your progress. Beautiful yard!!
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    Re: New Pool Build in Miami

    Nice yard and love the trees. Beautiful pool design!

    And already a hiccup. Utility companies are marking the underground lines and so far electric and phone are located in pool area.
    Dang it


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    Re: New Pool Build in Miami

    Thanks for the welcome! We're losing our ball field, but know the pool will be a great addition.
    Swimming!: 19x32 IG rectangular pool, 22,500 gallons; 3' - 6.5'; open spa w/ 6 jets; raised wall w/ 1 sheer descent and 2 minijets, 2 color-changing LED pool lights, 1 spa light; Jandy 2 1/2 HP 2 speed Pump, Jandy cartridge filter (320 SQFT), Diamondbrite Cool Blue

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    Re: New Pool Build in Miami

    Looks good jro. We are in homestead and are waiting for utilities to be marked to dig. Best of luck. Love the design. Will follow your build.

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    Re: New Pool Build in Miami

    Good news is utilities can be relocated, bad news is it isn't cheap.

    It'll all be worth it (that's what I keep telling myself)
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    Re: New Pool Build in Miami

    I like the design and this my not be an issue for you in Miami, but if you want the spa to be warmer than the pool, that won't work well with that design.
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    I should be getting the $$$ estimate for moving the utility lines this week. My fingers are crossed that it will go smoothly.

    Nice to see a fellow South Floridian on here, NorthRider!

    linen - we planned our alcove deliberately. Many friends of ours in Miami recommended against getting a spa because it is so rarely used and so expensive to heat and maintain. We really liked the idea of the separated space though, so we went with this alcove idea instead.
    Swimming!: 19x32 IG rectangular pool, 22,500 gallons; 3' - 6.5'; open spa w/ 6 jets; raised wall w/ 1 sheer descent and 2 minijets, 2 color-changing LED pool lights, 1 spa light; Jandy 2 1/2 HP 2 speed Pump, Jandy cartridge filter (320 SQFT), Diamondbrite Cool Blue

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    Re: New Pool Build in Miami

    More complications developing ...

    gas company marked the gas line and we have a main line running through our yard. Extremely frustrating as electrician wanted to reroute electric to this location. Now he's looking into moving right up against our property line to keep it out of the way.

    furthermore, the underground transformer is located right beneath a tree that I must first have removed before they can begin.

    And to add insult to injury, architect tells PB our lot has larger set-back requirements and pool must be shifted further away from property line. But, with pool shifted over, it blocks a screen door to our back patio. The whole thing looks funny and off. PB is going to brainstorm but I'm completely discouraged. Expenses are racking up and we haven't even started yet!

    Is this common or what?
    Swimming!: 19x32 IG rectangular pool, 22,500 gallons; 3' - 6.5'; open spa w/ 6 jets; raised wall w/ 1 sheer descent and 2 minijets, 2 color-changing LED pool lights, 1 spa light; Jandy 2 1/2 HP 2 speed Pump, Jandy cartridge filter (320 SQFT), Diamondbrite Cool Blue

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    Re: New Pool Build in Miami

    Hang in there...I am sure they will figure this out. Don't settle until it feels right to you. This is just a minor set back on the way to a great pool.
    Build is Done!: 18'x40' diving pool, depth 3'6" x 9', 104' perimeter, ~24k gallons, spa (6 jets), raised wall (3 scuppers), tanning ledge, Pentair IntelliFlo 3050 VS+SVRS, Pentair Clean & Clear 520 cartridge filter, Pentair MasterTemp 400 BTU heater, Polaris QT 1.5 HP blower, Pentair Intellichlor IC60 SWG, IntelliBrite 5G lights, Pentair EasyTouch 8 with Screenlogic2, 504 sq ft Roman Slate textured deck, Aqua Blue StoneScapes finish

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    Very nice design! So sorry to hear about the utility lines though. I hope it's not too much of a head ache!
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    Re: New Pool Build in Miami

    Quote Originally Posted by jro33176 View Post
    More complications developing ...

    gas company marked the gas line and we have a main line running through our yard. Extremely frustrating as electrician wanted to reroute electric to this location. Now he's looking into moving right up against our property line to keep it out of the way.

    furthermore, the underground transformer is located right beneath a tree that I must first have removed before they can begin.

    And to add insult to injury, architect tells PB our lot has larger set-back requirements and pool must be shifted further away from property line. But, with pool shifted over, it blocks a screen door to our back patio. The whole thing looks funny and off. PB is going to brainstorm but I'm completely discouraged. Expenses are racking up and we haven't even started yet!

    Is this common or what?
    Sadly, yes it seems to be (it was the case for us.) We worked aka "paid ppl" for a solid 6months getting things done so we could get to the point where we could dig the hole for the pool. I wasn't kidding when I said repeat "It's all going to be worth it" over and over. We have a large backyard with a 6 ft CMU fence, we expected the fence guys would be able to work on the remainder of the fence (raising it to 8ft and closing off entrances) while the pool was being constructed. Fence guy said "nope, we will be in each others way. We will just wait until the pool guys are gone". This was discouraging to hear, but it's just a drop in the bucket.
    IG gunite/plaster pool/spa Started 1/17/14, Plastered 5/16/14
    Size: 12'-21'x39' free form, depth ranging from 4' to 7, attached 6 person spa with spillover.
    Equipment: Whisperflo 2hp pump, Pentair 30" sand filter, Pentair Mastertemp 400k BTU heater, 1hp Whisperflo for waterfalls, and a blower for spa floor

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    I do fear moving the gas line is going to be very expensieve. I hope things work out as I can see you clearly want to get this project off the ground.

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    Re: New Pool Build in Miami

    Quote Originally Posted by jro33176 View Post
    Hello Everyone!

    And already a hiccup. Utility companies are marking the underground lines and so far electric and phone are located in pool area.
    Congrats on getting started! I was lucky with my utilities (electric mainly) in that it wasn't in the way of the pool, but it also wasn't anywhere near where it was shown to be in the survey of my plot! Apparently the utility companies like to save money and take shortcuts on the route to save cable costs if they're not being watched closely!
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    I appreciate all the feedback. Most people seem to document their new builds with excavation. I was unprepared for all the issues that could arise before getting to that point!

    cbink - you are right about those surveys being incomplete! Ours designates a 6 ft. utility easement that none of our utility lines are located in!

    mrcarcrazy - you are not kidding with that mantra! I will repeat it regularly. I had a chuckle over your fence. We are going to take down the portion of fence by the house and rebuild it on the far side of our property and we get the same response -- "We can just wait until the pool is finished." They will be working nowhere near each other!

    At any rate, we are redesigning with the given limitations. At first we considered simply shifting everything over, but the pool looked "crammed in" and when you walked out one of the doors, you were stepping directly in front of the pool. The tanning deck was just a few steps in front of the door! We decided to remove the tanning deck to get the extra distance from the house and instead put corner steps in. Also, we shortened the length of the pool from 35 to 32 and increased the width from 16 to 19. This moves the edge of pool away from that patio door. I think it's a better fit that way.

    We'll probably have to add more decking behind where the chairs are currently located in the drawing.

    Most current design:



    The section of pool closest to the house and patio door:
    Swimming!: 19x32 IG rectangular pool, 22,500 gallons; 3' - 6.5'; open spa w/ 6 jets; raised wall w/ 1 sheer descent and 2 minijets, 2 color-changing LED pool lights, 1 spa light; Jandy 2 1/2 HP 2 speed Pump, Jandy cartridge filter (320 SQFT), Diamondbrite Cool Blue

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    Re: New Pool Build in Miami

    Sorry you lost the sundeck, but I still find the design very modern and spacious. Are you on septic or sewer?

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    It's beautiful. But Couldn't you add your tanning ledge back in next to the spa on the new design and extend more decking behind that end?
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    Looks good, but I'd leave a few feet between the decking and the fence so you could plant some landscape. You're going to want to break up that long fence run with some sort of landscaping. You could use pots as well

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    Re: New Pool Build in Miami

    Still more design tweaking today. We added more decking and adjusted the seating in the alcove area. Also, rounded out the steps and put in a mini tanning step.

    Our PB is very patient, I must say! He came out to our house and sprayed the pool outline in the yard.

    Northrider, we are on sewer. As for the tanning ledge, we're okay with eliminating the original version. Timing is everything and over the weekend, we swam in someone else's pool. They had stairs like we now have and it was perfect for the Youngest. He played on the steps, and it was plenty big enough.

    As for the fence, it will be gone in the end. It actually divides our property in half! We are relocating it to the property line so we have full use of the yard. The half you cannot see in these pics will be the "play side."

    Here's the tweaked design:


    We gave the go-ahead to send this design back to the architect. Probably won't see anymore pool progress for a month or so (I'm guessing). But, in the meantime, I need to remove a tree and relocate some plants I want to save... Also, need to get those utilities relocated... <sigh>
    Swimming!: 19x32 IG rectangular pool, 22,500 gallons; 3' - 6.5'; open spa w/ 6 jets; raised wall w/ 1 sheer descent and 2 minijets, 2 color-changing LED pool lights, 1 spa light; Jandy 2 1/2 HP 2 speed Pump, Jandy cartridge filter (320 SQFT), Diamondbrite Cool Blue

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    Re: New Pool Build in Miami

    Any estimates yet on relocating those utilities?

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