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    new pool owner rental property

    Hi guys and girls
    have just bought a property with a view to moving in at a later date
    the inground pool looked like a diamond, so clear you could not look at it on a sunny day
    the original owners are renting the property back
    their pool maintenance was when chlorinator said low salt throw a sack of salt in and each week one cup of acid
    anyway took a sample to local pool shop
    TA 14 ppm
    PH 4.8
    CH 56 ppm
    FC 1.8
    CC 1.6
    salt 4350
    TDS 4350
    CYA 0
    horrifying numbers
    since adding recommended chemicals
    8kg 18lb balnce pack 100
    4kg 10lb balance pack 300
    1kg 2lb stabilizer
    and turned salt generator from 60% to 63% running 7 hours per day
    water has gradually lost it's sparkle and become a little cloudy
    next test one week later
    TA 106
    PH 7.5
    CH 102
    FC 3.6
    CC 1.4
    salt 4470
    TDS 4470
    the numbers are starting to look better, have ordered taylors t-2006 test kit but water is definately cloudy
    wondering about slamming the pool
    next test much the same except PH 7.8
    added another 2kg 4.5lb pak 300 and a cup of acid
    test results with taylor kit close to pool shop except combined chlorine another week later
    TA 90
    PH 7.4
    CH 120
    FC 3.6
    CC 0.2
    CYA 70
    still want to raise TA and CH (have just added another 4kg 10lb bal pak 300)
    now for some questions
    can the combined chlorine have dropped so much in a week?
    I find it hard to believe the only TDS is salt, how can i test salt and other solids?
    I know the low PH made the water sparkle, but how do i get that sparkle back?
    thanks,
    Andrew
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    Re: new pool owner rental property

    Welcome to TFP!

    I'd just stay the course until you have a test kit. I'm suspicious of your pool store testing, because I doubt they could measure pH that low and the odds of your FC being the same to the tenth twice in a row are pretty long.

    There is no reason to be raising the TA. It's already higher than we recommend, though it's not a big deal. You are buying overpriced baking soda to raise it, so it's both unneeded and overpriced.
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    Re: new pool owner rental property

    sorry for my confusing post
    last set of results are with my taylor kit
    the first set of results ph was" less than 6.8 on printout"
    they then did another test to get 4.8 ph
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    Lincoln Salt Chlorinator, 25 gram cell Sand Filter with glass media
    Taylor K2006-C test kit, Taylor K-1766 salt test, Dolphin M500 pool cleaner
    are you taking care of your pool or is the poolshop taking care of you

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    No need to raise the TA. The SWG will result in the pH wanting to rise, and the lower TA will help keep it from rising too quickly.

    I wouldn't worry about the drop in CC. It is definitely possible for it to drop that much in a week, and it is also possible that the pool store test was inaccurate.

    We don't usually worry about TDS. Of course, you'll need to make sure your SWG has enough salt. Other than that, TDS rarely matters at all.

    We'll help get it sparkling again--what is in those balance packs that you added?
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    Re: new pool owner rental property

    balpack 100 is sodium bicarbonate
    balpack 300 is calcium chloride
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    Re: new pool owner rental property

    Bioguard products are nothing but really overpriced grocery store items with fancy names and fancy packaging. I'm a former Bioguard victim myself.
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    Any time you add calcium there is some risk that it will temporarily cloud the water. Adding calcium and sodium bicarbonate (this latter is what baking soda is, by the way, so as Smykowski mentioned, you can just buy it in the grocery store) near the same time is a recipe for cloudiness. It should clear up in a few days.
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    Re: new pool owner rental property

    has been cloudy for about four weeks now
    I am wondering if i have a controlled algae bloom
    as the tenants usually turn everything off over winter
    their start-up is turn filter/chlorinator back on and add couple of quarts of acid
    i priced baking soda at the grocery store and it was more expensive as was only available in small packets
    SWG inground peanut shaped eco-bright concrete pool
    50,000 litres 13,000 gallons
    Lincoln Salt Chlorinator, 25 gram cell Sand Filter with glass media
    Taylor K2006-C test kit, Taylor K-1766 salt test, Dolphin M500 pool cleaner
    are you taking care of your pool or is the poolshop taking care of you

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    If it is staying cloudy, it's time to slam it. See: pool-school/shocking_your_pool

    Don't try to raise the chlorine level this high with the SWG; it won't be able to do it. Use liquid chlorine (bleach). You can turn the SWG off while slamming.
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    Re: new pool owner rental property

    Won't hurt to run the filter 24/7 until the water gets clear.
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    Re: new pool owner rental property

    two weeks since last post
    water has not changed at all, still slightly cloudy
    i don't think i can slam effectively as i don't have constant access to the property
    even an OCLT will be awkward
    can i increase pump run time and chlorine output to a higher level over a longer period of time
    todays taylor results
    FC 1.6, CC 0.0
    PH 7.6
    TA 90
    CH 170
    CYA 80
    a big drop in FC but we are having a big hot spell and the pool is getting a lot of use
    i have increased chlorine output 63% to 70%
    SWG inground peanut shaped eco-bright concrete pool
    50,000 litres 13,000 gallons
    Lincoln Salt Chlorinator, 25 gram cell Sand Filter with glass media
    Taylor K2006-C test kit, Taylor K-1766 salt test, Dolphin M500 pool cleaner
    are you taking care of your pool or is the poolshop taking care of you

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