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    Raised pool wall material that's easiest to maintain & more

    Getting ready to dig in the next couple weeks, and we are trying to make some detailed design choices.

    1) So we have about a 2 foot wall that runs the length of the pool, and we are really struggling trying to decide on what to put on the wall. We love the look of glass tile, but not sure how easy that will be to maintain with the grout and all. We have also considered stacked stone panels (both natural and manufactured). The wall will not be submerged in the water, but 4 feet of it will be behind a sheer descent, so there will be splashing on the wall but it won't be constantly under the water. I love the look of the dark subway tile like in the attached picture, but we could do a stackstone as well, like the other picture. Any suggestions as to what material will be easiest to keep clean and maintain? I want to go with our favorite look, but don't want to regret it because it's a nightmare to keep looking nice. Oh, and we will have a SWG if that would make any difference. Also, is there a specific type of tile that would NOT work well on a raised pool wall, or will any work as long as they are rated for outdoors as well?

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    Also, here are a few more decisions I could use input on:

    2) does anyone have a dark gray poured-in-place coping? Has the color stayed looking good? How long have you had it? I heard that gray colored concrete goes white on you if you don't seal it faithfully. Anyway, if you have any pics you can send me that would be helpful too.

    3) I am still trying to decide if adding a deep heat line would be helpful or necessary with my pool? It costs about $200 more, but didn't know if it would be worth it.

    4) Will regular plaster last me 15 years without a cover in Southern California if we take care of the pool? And would really pebble last 25-30 years? Is NPT's Stonescapes mini pebble going to last as long as Pebble Sheen (I know the difference in PT's installers having to be specially certified)? I'd really like to save $2k if I could by going with Stonescapes if it will last as long (considering the same installer installed both products).

    5) Is 3000 psi good enough for my shotcrete shell? I have read articles that say it should be at least 4000 psi, but people around here seem to get 3000 psi all the time. Again, I don't want to pay extra if 3000 is going to be totally sufficient.

    Please let your thoughts/advice pour in and thanks for your help once again.

    Here's info on the pool and I'm in southern California:
    SIZE: 16’ X 38’ DEPTH: 3’ 6" TO 7’ 0"
    EST TOTAL GALLONS:23,800 RETURNS: Three (3) 2"
    COPING: Double Pour Cantilever or quartzite flagstone
    SQFT: 643 PERIMETER: 121
    SKIMMERS: One (1)
    INTERIOR MATERIAL: TILE: Choice thru GP. III
    24" RBB w/tile facing
    5G Color light
    Double pour cantilever coping.
    Lower deck area: 598 sq. ft.
    P/A
    NOTES: facing on RBB to be determined
    STEEL: 4 x #4 in beam w/ 20’ "T’ bars
    SKIMMERS: One (1) w/2 1/2" suction
    MAIN DRAINS: Two (2) in deep end
    CLEANING SYSTEM: Suction
    VAC LINES: Dedicated 2.5"
    Suction VAC: The PoolCleaner
    WATER FEATURES:One (1) 48" on ’circ’ pump w/valve
    NOTES: Auto fill & over-flo
    Hose bib at upper deck area (tied into sprinkler line)
    EQUIPMENT
    GloBrite color light
    Equipotential bonding required for pool deck.
    J box (at equipment); light switches by back door.
    POOL PUMP: Pentair IntelliFlo VS 8 X 160
    FILTER: Pentair 60 sq. ft. DE FNS Plus
    HEATER: Pentair 140K UltraTemp heat pump (50 amp)
    LIGHTS IN POOL: Two (2) 5G color pool lights &
    (1) GloBrite on reef w/transformer
    NOTES: IntelliChlor salt chlorinator
    Auto-fill & over-flo
    48" Cascade waterfall (on circ pump w/valve)
    50 amp dedicated circuit for future spa
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    24k gallon 16x38 IG shotcrete pool + 5x10 tanning shelf, Stonescapes Tropics Blue, Heat Siphon Z575HP Heat Pump (11.45 KW PV SunPower Solar), Pentair 3HP VS Pump 001018, Pentair SWG IC40, 2 Pentair IntelliBrite 5G 120v color LED pool lights, Pentair IntelliGlo 5G 12v color LED shallow water light w/300W transformer, Pentair DE FNS Plus 60sf filter, 24" rbb wall, 3.5-7' depth, TFT100 Test Kit, K1776 Salt Test kit, '07 Sundance Chelsee spa

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    Re: Raised pool wall material that's easiest to maintain & m

    Sorry you didn't get answers sooner!
    1) I think tile would be much easier to clean than any kind of stone - any scaling that forms could be easily cleaned off with diluted acid...that will be much harder with stone. As long as it's a tile made for pools, it'll be fine.
    2) I don't...but sounds nice.
    3) Nope, your pool will heat just fine without it.
    4) I think yes, plaster can last 15 years. I'm not sure about the 30 that is claimed for pebble, but it's certainly possible, and the general recommendation around here is that getting a pebble finish is worth the cost. I don't think there's any significant differences between the different brands of pebble finishes...how good it turns out depends entirely on the installer.
    5) Not sure, but I seriously doubt it is important.
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    Re: Raised pool wall material that's easiest to maintain & m

    Thank you for your input. As to choosing a "pool" tile, are there any specs of the tile that I should be sure to look for or avoid? When I look, they often list that they are suitable or interior and exterior and they they are great for back splashes, pools, showers, etc". Does this make them "pool" tiles?
    I'd like a dark gray subway tile and a multi colored glass tile. Any advice I I could use to make sure that my mason is installing them on my waterline and raised bond beam?
    24k gallon 16x38 IG shotcrete pool + 5x10 tanning shelf, Stonescapes Tropics Blue, Heat Siphon Z575HP Heat Pump (11.45 KW PV SunPower Solar), Pentair 3HP VS Pump 001018, Pentair SWG IC40, 2 Pentair IntelliBrite 5G 120v color LED pool lights, Pentair IntelliGlo 5G 12v color LED shallow water light w/300W transformer, Pentair DE FNS Plus 60sf filter, 24" rbb wall, 3.5-7' depth, TFT100 Test Kit, K1776 Salt Test kit, '07 Sundance Chelsee spa

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    Re: Raised pool wall material that's easiest to maintain & more

    What did you end up with? Tile or stone? Any pics to share?
    13,000 gallon IG
    PCC IG cleaning system
    Pentair equip.
    Attached spa
    Dire need for surface refinish!

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