Become a TFP Supporter Pool Math Forum Rules Pool School
Results 1 to 13 of 13

Thread: LED Pool Lights - Can you offer good Manufacturer

  1. Back To Top    #1

    LED Pool Lights - Can you offer good Manufacturer

    I have 5 LED lights in my pool (Built Nov 2012).

    Two of the five lights failed, the manufacturer is: Savi Pool and Spa (http://www.nextstepproduct.com/savi/Melody.html)

    I am pretty disappointed in these lights for the following reasons:
    1. 2 of the 5 lights failed in 1 year.
    2. They are not very bright.

    Can anyone offer another Manufacturer that will last 5 years or more?

    I really don't care what kind of light, I just want the lights to be bright and reasonable price to replace. I don't care about the electrical power usage.

    These LED lights screw into a 1.5 in threaded pvc pipe.
    33,000 gal 40'x20', IG Gunite, SWG, Hayward TurboCell-15 SWG, Hayward EcoStar SP3400VSP Pump, Hayward H400FD 400,000 BTU Heater (Propane), Hayward Prologic PS4 Controller, 525 Sq.Ft. Hayward C5030 Cartridge Filter. 38 Infloor Cleaning Heads (Blue Pool), 40'x20' CoverStar Automatic Pool cover. Plastered 10/1/2012. Located in Las Vegas Nevada TF100 Test Kit.

  2. Back To Top    #2

    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Location
    Newcastle, NSW, Australia
    Posts
    31

    Re: LED Pool Lights - Can you offer good Manufacturer

    Well, the 1.5" makes life difficult. I had a pool light that used a 50W MR16 halogen which I refitted with a quality LED MR16 and its brighter. Single colour?

    MR16's are 51mm in diameter. MR11's are 1.375" so you may be able to use them.

    Short of making something custom (using high quality LED chip-on-board components, or cree mc-E) ~ maybe something using MR11 components from cutter.com.au - they have multi-emitter MR11 arrays that blow halogen out of the water.

    Depends how electrically and mechanically handy you are...
    Brand new 30,000 Litre (~8000Gal) inground Leisure Pools fibreglass, Astral Pool Viron 3 speed 1.5Hp P320 pump, Hurlcon VX 3 T SWCG, Hurlcon ZX100 cartridge filter.
    Two mustard algae events, lots of bad pool store advice - double the salt level it should be (sigh), large amounts of copper based algaecide, 50 litres of 12.5% liquid chlorine, 2 litres of clarifier. $300 in chemicals in two weeks.

  3. Back To Top    #3
    ComputerGuyInNOLA's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Mandeville, Louisiana
    Posts
    602

    Re: LED Pool Lights - Can you offer good Manufacturer

    I am very happy with my Jandy Watercolor LED lights. I run them 4 hours per night and no problems whatsoever after 1 year and 3 months of service.
    Gunite/Plaster pool at 13k gallons. All Jandy with CL340 series cartridge filter, 1.5 HP Jandy Stealth pump. Jandy 1400 SWCG and PDA4 controller. Dual waterfalls. Polaris 280. Pool installed August 2012. Southern Louisiana. And lets not forget my trusty TF100 test kit!

  4. Back To Top    #4

    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Long Beach, CA
    Posts
    2,670

    Re: LED Pool Lights - Can you offer good Manufacturer

    Any chance they are still under warranty from your pool builder? You might be stuck with those lights as I don't know of any type of light that replaces those.

    Edited: I just looked up the warranty and they have a two year warranty. Get your pool builder to replace them and make sure everything is connected according to Savi's instructions.
    16k gal plaster with raised spa, Jandy DEV60 filter, 2 HP 2-speed SHPF Jandy Stealth pump
    Hayward Aqua Rite T-15 SWCG, Jandy LXi 400k BTU NG heater, 350 sq.ft. of Sun Star solar panels, TF-100 Test Kit, Dolphin s300i Cleaner
    Test Kits . Pool Math . Chlorine/CYA Chart . The SLAM Process

  5. Back To Top    #5

    Re: LED Pool Lights - Can you offer good Manufacturer

    Jandy (Owned by Zodiac) has an LED light that might work for you.

    http://www.zodiacpoolsystems.com/Produc ... s-LED.aspx

  6. Back To Top    #6

    Re: LED Pool Lights - Can you offer good Manufacturer

    Thanks to all that replied.

    And so I hired a reputable pool builder in Las Vegas Nevada...

    I only wished that he would have explained the pros and cons of installing different types of lighting.

    I would never have installed 1.5" PVC for the Savi LED lights, as it appears there is only 1 vendor (Savi Pool and Spa), who makes them. That's insane. What if I don't like them? What if the company goes out of business? What if the company stops making them and changes design again.

    After seeing how dis-organized, greedy and Mafia type pricing the whole industry is, I can understand why.

    If I was a Pool Builder, I would design a pool light cavity (niche), that would accept every type of pool light on the market. I am sure there are less than 5 common types. Good chance that someone has already made a piece of plastic or something that can be plastered into a wall and could accept a standard 110 volt pool light or an LED light from Savi. Something... Anything...

    Yeah, the lights are under warranty... So what... once the lights get a full two years of time. I know the lights will fail again. They barely made one year, so you know this problem is going to come back again once they are out of warranty.

    The company that makes these lights have no reason to make them reliable, they could easily put a counter in the electronics that cause the light to stop working after 2.1 years of service. They just want to sell you more lights. I have yet to own a single Halogen, LED, or Compact Fluorescent light that has worked for more that 2 years. I am sure decent lighting exists (not just for pools), but the market is **** bent on selling cheap junk to cheap US citizens. So it makes it extremely hard to find quality objects (lights), in a made in china society.

    I hate this about our country today, 95% of the products we buy (not me), are disposed of. Nobody seems to want to pay for quality any more.

    One thing is for sure that once these lights fail and are out of warranty, I will not purchase replacement lights from Savi. I am stubborn enough to either build my own light to fit in that 1.5" cavity, or just not have any lights in the pool.

    -Russ
    33,000 gal 40'x20', IG Gunite, SWG, Hayward TurboCell-15 SWG, Hayward EcoStar SP3400VSP Pump, Hayward H400FD 400,000 BTU Heater (Propane), Hayward Prologic PS4 Controller, 525 Sq.Ft. Hayward C5030 Cartridge Filter. 38 Infloor Cleaning Heads (Blue Pool), 40'x20' CoverStar Automatic Pool cover. Plastered 10/1/2012. Located in Las Vegas Nevada TF100 Test Kit.

  7. Back To Top    #7

    Re: LED Pool Lights - Can you offer good Manufacturer

    The Jandy lights will fit in a 1.5 inch threaded return.

  8. Back To Top    #8

    Re: LED Pool Lights - Can you offer good Manufacturer

    Fiberstars work very nice also

  9. Back To Top    #9

    In the Industry

    Join Date
    Oct 2014
    Location
    Howell, NJ
    Posts
    1

    Re: LED Pool Lights - Can you offer good Manufacturer

    Quote Originally Posted by wetwork45 View Post
    Fiberstars work very nice also
    Just installed the new Hayward UCL320 1.5" LED lights. Very bright and sealed very nicely. I had 3 jobs and no issues. Highly recommend them.

  10. Back To Top    #10

    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Parkland, FL
    Posts
    727

    Re: LED Pool Lights - Can you offer good Manufacturer

    Install whatever lights will work with your controller as usually only certain lights will work with certain controllers.
    8000 gal diamond brite pool with 650 gal spillover spa, Pentair 3hp VS pump. Jandy Cartridge filter and Jandy Heat Pump. Jandy PDA automation system with 2 Pentair Laminars. SmartPool NC74S Robotic Pool Cleaner.

  11. Back To Top    #11

    TFP Guide

    In the Industry

    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    New Brunswick Canada
    Posts
    819

    Re: LED Pool Lights - Can you offer good Manufacturer

    Jandy is the way to go IMO, I have seen Savi failures in every single pool I service.

  12. Back To Top    #12

    TFP Guide
    mrcarcrazy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Odessa, TX
    Posts
    973

    Re: LED Pool Lights - Can you offer good Manufacturer

    So far so good on my Pentair 5G.

    family member has had them ~4yrs. still going strong.

    I have no clue on the connections...but I do want to change my spa light out with a LED now.
    IG gunite/plaster pool/spa Started 1/17/14, Plastered 5/16/14
    Size: 12'-21'x39' free form, depth ranging from 4' to 7, attached 6 person spa with spillover.
    Equipment: Whisperflo 2hp pump, Pentair 30" sand filter, Pentair Mastertemp 400k BTU heater, 1hp Whisperflo for waterfalls, and a blower for spa floor

  13. Back To Top    #13

    In the Industry

    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    441

    Re: LED Pool Lights - Can you offer good Manufacturer

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesW View Post
    Jandy (Owned by Zodiac) has an LED light that might work for you.

    http://www.zodiacpoolsystems.com/Produc ... s-LED.aspx
    Savi is also now owned by Zodiac.

    They did change the lights about a year ago... We have not had to replace any of the new style fixtures.

    Is this an all white, or colored light?
    20X40 30,000 gallon gunite pool

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •