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    Sanity check my winter plan please

    Hi all,

    Just got our first real rain here in the Bay Area a couple of days ago and along with the real start of "fall" (i.e. leaves dropping) I thought I'd check to see if my plan for getting through the winter is sound.

    We're keeping the pool "open", but not heating it. Just heating the spa when we want to use it. The pool is not covered so I've got the cleaner system running several hours a day to keep up with getting the leaves out. I try to go scoop as many out as I can in the evening but really the cleaner does a pretty good job of getting them out. I empty the skimmer basket every morning and the cleaner basket once a week. I've got the SWG set at 10% and am currently running the pump about 4 hours a day although I'm likely to lower it as I still have an FC over 10. I'm testing the water twice a week and adding acid as my pH tends to creep up. I am currently lowering my pH to 7.2 to reduce the TA over the winter so I can potentially add borax in Spring. Anything amiss with this plan ?

    I do have a couple of queries in this vein.

    1) With the rain and weak sun exposure, the pool level is a little higher than normal. I'm not too concerned about it, but I thought I'd double check. My plan is that as long as the water level is below the edge of the coping, I'm not going to drain any water off. I feel the skimmer should still work in this case. Is that right ? What do you guys do if you need to drain the pool anyway ? Do you drain the pool to your house sewer line ? It is illegal here to drain into the storm drains and I wouldn't want to any way as the chlorine and salt would make it into the Bay.

    2) How concerned do I need to be with leaves clogging the skimmer and cleaner baskets ? While I'm home I can manage emptying these myself. However, we'll be gone for several times over the holidays (one time for two weeks). The SWG will keep the FC inline and I'll make sure all other readings are inline before leaving, but I worry a little about coming home to a big mess if there is a significant wind storm while I'm gone. We have 3 80' redwood trees in our one neighbors yard as well as several liquid ambers and flowering pears which are still full of leaves. I'm thinking I'll ask one of the neighbor boys if they would come empty the skimmer. Not sure about the cleaner basket though.

    Thanks for any advice. I'm glad I found this site. I learn something every time I come here and my gained knowledge has just allowed me to cancel my pool service

    Cheers,
    Spyder
    Free Form IG Pool with overflow connected Spa. 28K gal. Finished Sept. 2013.
    Wet Edge Primera Stone (Tahoe Coast)
    Intelliflo VS Pump. Paramount Cleaning System. IntelliClor IC40 SWG. Sta-Rite System 3 Cartridge Filter.

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    Re: Sanity check my winter plan please

    1) Given we don't get all that much rain, I would just leave it alone and let evaporation take care of it. But when I do drain, I just put it in the sewer system via the house clean out. However, there are no storm drain police that I know of so one of your neighbors would have to turn you in. Storm drains drain to the bay which has a pretty high salt content anyway so salt is not an issue and the chlorine would be depleted by the time the water makes it to the bay anyway. Plus your pool water is no worse than what rain water washes into the storm drains. Just saying.


    2) If the skimmers get too clogged, the pump can start to draw air which over time could cause problems. If you can find someone to clean out the skimmers, that would be a good idea. Do the skimmers have a wall port underneath them for vacuum relief? That can help too.
    Mark
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    Re: Sanity check my winter plan please

    Quote Originally Posted by mas985
    1) Given we don't get all that much rain, I would just leave it alone and let evaporation take care of it. But when I do drain, I just put it in the sewer system via the house clean out. However, there are no storm drain police that I know of so one of your neighbors would have to turn you in. Storm drains drain to the bay which has a pretty high salt content anyway so salt is not an issue and the chlorine would be depleted by the time the water makes it to the bay anyway. Plus your pool water is no worse than what rain water washes into the storm drains. Just saying.
    You've never been to Los Altos We have police for everything Still, I would feel better using the house clean out and it is within easy hose distance. I figured I wouldn't need to worry about the rain, but best to ask.

    Quote Originally Posted by mas985
    2) If the skimmers get too clogged, the pump can start to draw air which over time could cause problems. If you can find someone to clean out the skimmers, that would be a good idea. Do the skimmers have a wall port underneath them for vacuum relief? That can help too.
    Hmmm... not sure I know what you're referring to. Do you mean is there a port in the pool wall by the skimmer ? If so, yes. Not sure how I know if it connects to the skimmer line for vacuum relief though.

    Thanks !
    Spyder
    Free Form IG Pool with overflow connected Spa. 28K gal. Finished Sept. 2013.
    Wet Edge Primera Stone (Tahoe Coast)
    Intelliflo VS Pump. Paramount Cleaning System. IntelliClor IC40 SWG. Sta-Rite System 3 Cartridge Filter.

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    Re: Sanity check my winter plan please

    If it is set up like the picture below with an equalizer line, then that will help to protect the pump from flow restriction.


    Mark
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    Re: Sanity check my winter plan please

    OK. Thanks. I'll look at it in the morning to confirm.
    Free Form IG Pool with overflow connected Spa. 28K gal. Finished Sept. 2013.
    Wet Edge Primera Stone (Tahoe Coast)
    Intelliflo VS Pump. Paramount Cleaning System. IntelliClor IC40 SWG. Sta-Rite System 3 Cartridge Filter.

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