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    Help with extracting cracked winter plug recessed spa jet

    Hopefully the picture will help, but basically my PB (who insisted) that he winterize the pool for the 1st year close or he warranty would not be honored (yeah whatever) cracked off a "recessed" winterizing plug in one of my spa jets. He tried for about 2 hours to extract it, and failed...finally just putting a regular old plug in the hole and said he will most likely have to drain the pool (below the jet) and worry about it in the spring.

    Attached is a picture...my crude drawings in red are the "recessed" plug that he is using...lord knows why he needed this special plug, but Hayward told him he did. It basically is a winter plug that is "attached" to a long (6") piece of PVC and it screws into the back threads vs. the front ones. All that is left are the threads and about 1" of the plug....it is about 2" into the walls of the jet.

    Any creative ideas how to extract this...and once again hopefully others have seen this kind of plug and can help out.

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    Re: Help with extracting cracked winter plug recessed spa je

    Hm, without draining the pool nothing immediately comes to mind. If it were drained, you could heat up a chisel (or just a piece of flat steel) to red hot, then press it into the plastic to melt a slot...then try and unscrew it that way.
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    Re: Help with extracting cracked winter plug recessed spa je

    Would an easy out tool work? Its reverse threaded to screw in opposite to normal.

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    Re: Help with extracting cracked winter plug recessed spa je

    The inner diameter is about 1 1/4 inches or so... he tried a spade drill bit in reverse and it just slowly ground the plastic away. I think he over tightened and snapped off the body. Not sure an easy out would bite.... plus not sure how large they make um...

    The first tip might work, have to lower water in spring below jets though.
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    Re: Help with extracting cracked winter plug recessed spa je

    If you have access to a heat gun, apply the hot air to the fitting for a few minutes and you will be able to simply pull the fitting out with some needlenose pliers......

    If no heat gun then a propane torch will work, but use more carefully.....

    If the fitting is not submerged currently then you could also boil up a pot of water and pour it on the fitting area.....

    Once you get it softened by heat it should come out relatively easily.....

    If it is still in fact submerged, I've got nothing other than draining down until you have "dry" access to the fitting.....
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    Re: Help with extracting cracked winter plug recessed spa je

    Okay....my reading comprehension drops drastically after a few beers.....just re-read your original post and see that the fitting is still submerged.....in my opinion you're going to have to get it exposed to get the plug out.....
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    Re: Help with extracting cracked winter plug recessed spa je

    Yep, under water....HOWEVER, my picture is NOT IDEAL...the fitting that is broken is actually threaded. So how will a heat gun allow it to come out? I would still need to somehow unthread it ?
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    Re: Help with extracting cracked winter plug recessed spa je

    No. The heat should make the fitting pliable. Using needle nose pliers you should be able to grip part of the fitting and simply pull it out. It should become pliable like thick taffy.
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    Re: Help with extracting cracked winter plug recessed spa je

    Sounds cool...but since the rest of the fitting is plastic, don't I risk deforming the threads, etc and destroying the fitting ?
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    Re: Help with extracting cracked winter plug recessed spa je

    Yeah...I wouldn't use a heat gun.
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