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    Quotes from 2 different bidders - please help!!!

    Hi, I'm looking to build a pool in the next few months and I got 2 bidders so far with two different options. Both gave me good reasons so I don't know what option I should go. Please advise.

    PB A:
    1 HP traditional pump for pool
    1.5 HP booster pump for spa (8 jets)
    Separate pump for water feature

    PB B:
    2 HP variable speed pump for both pool and spa (6 jets)
    Separate pump for water feature

    PB A claims that separate pumps would save you electricity because you only need run the booster pump for spa when you want to use it. PB B, on the other hand, claims the VS pump is energy efficient vs the traditional pump. It's a waste of $ to put in another pump for spa. Any suggestions here as which one is right. I don't fully understand how the variable speed pump works. Can one VS pump handle both spa and pool?

    Thanks in advance.

    PS. Also, which one would you recommend? Pentair or Hayward? Sales people would tell me that they are the same. But then some other pool owners would tell me to stay away from Hayward.

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    Re: Quotes from 2 different bidders - please help!!!

    Welcome to tfp, newbie_pool

    Although there are reasons to keep them separate, I would lean towards the variable speed (vs), since you can program it to do both jobs...high flow for when the spa is used, low flow for the rest of the time. Additionally, depending on the water feature, the vs might be able to do that job as well.

    Both pentair and hayward make fine vs pumps. If you have or plan to get automation that may push you towards one or the other.
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    Re: Quotes from 2 different bidders - please help!!!

    Thanks for your quick response. Sorry with my dumb questions here. What kind of automation? Can vs pump perform the same as booster pump for spa? Can VS pump handle both pool and spa?

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    Re: Quotes from 2 different bidders - please help!!!

    Automation is basically automatic control of you pool equipment, such as when to run, how high a flow rate to run, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by newbie_pool
    Can vs pump perform the same as booster pump for spa? Can VS pump handle both pool and spa?
    Yes and Yes (assuming the VS chosen has a high enough flow rate).
    TFP Expert who uses Pool School and my TF100 test kit along with PoolMath for my: Round 11K gallon AGP with deep end, 20" sand filter, Matrix 1hp 2spd, 6 2ftX20ft solar panels (and solar cover!), Intex SWCG (copper bars disconnected) and a Rubadub hot tub (chlorine). The SLAM process is not finished until: 1. CC < 0.5 ppm, 2. An OCLT < 1.0 ppm and, 3. The water is crystal clear.

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    Re: Quotes from 2 different bidders - please help!!!

    The pumps are the least concern if you are contracting a PB.
    If I had it to do over again...
    1. What are the tolerances for measurements, can I see the plans, IN WRITING?
    2. What size plumbing are you using, and do you calculate ft. of head?
    3. Do you pressure test your plumbing?
    4. How many employees do you have and what is their experience?
    5. What is your warranty and what are the component warranties?
    6. Are you using a certified electrician?
    7. Are you attaining city permits?
    8. Will my fence be rebuilt at no cost if you have to take it down?
    9. BBB check
    10. What is your liability insurance?

    Back to the motors, I chose the VS for my pool, because I am familiar with this type if motor, and know the benefits.
    24k gallon inground vinyl liner pool, 8'-3' depth, 2 skimmers, 3 returns, basic 5 chem kit.
    Hayward: DE-60 filter, Superpump VS, AquaRite salt chlorinator w/T-Cell 15, TigerShark QC robot. Jacuzzi hot tub ~350gal. Air blower type, w/8 jets.

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    Re: Quotes from 2 different bidders - please help!!!

    Our previous house had a pool & we are now in the process of having one put in at our current house. Our PB told us we can use one pump for everything, but if we wanted to run the water feature & circulate pool water at the same time, we would need 2 separate pumps. We went with the 2nd pump for the waterfall so we can run both at the same time. I like having the pool circulating when I float in it, plus the skimmer flaps are annoying when you're swimming with the pool pump off. Just minor things, but if you're spending the $ to put in a pool, you want to be sure you get it just like you want it. Good luck with the process!


    Carman
    17K gallon IG pool w/Spa, 400,000 BTU Propane Hayward Heater, StoneScapes finish w/sealed Oklahoma Flagstone coping and tanning ledge, Hayward Aquarite Salt System, 60ft D.E. filter, Hayward Tristar 2 HP 2 speed pump, Polaris 280, Pro Logic PS4 w/freeze guard. New build December 2013. Pool gets full sun.

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