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    Thoughts on North Dallas pool before we sign

    We're about to sign but I wanted some opinions

    40ft x 20ft, perimeter 110
    Surface area 657 + spa
    5 pool returns, auto fill, dual main drains, 2 skimmers
    Jandy never lube 2" x 2 1/2" three way valves
    Steel and Gunite Structure minimums - Belly and Wall #3, 10" OC with Alternate #3, 5" OC Belly Steel, 4 Box Beam, #4 4" OC. Gunite 12" Beam with 8"-10" wall and belly

    Spa Perimeter 30ft
    12" raised
    6 jets, 2.5" suction line
    SPA Seat curved and contoured
    Dual Drains
    Natural Gas line for heater

    1 500 watt pool light
    1 60 watt spa light
    4 by 160 SVRS Intelliflo filter pump 2 " suction line
    400 BTU Heater NG low Nox
    3/4 hp Legend pump with Legend pool cleaner
    2.0 hp polaris qt air blower
    pentair filtration
    filter clean and clear + cartridge 520
    Pentair sun touch
    ln line chlorinator

    water line tile = 6" tile
    Coping - Oklahoma

    PebbleTec pool finish

    SPA Fountain
    SPA 12 Elevated with Spill Over
    Stone Veneer SPA Wall and Dam
    Elevated Bar and 3 in pool bar stools / Bar Stools Capped with 1 Tiles
    Cap Tanning Ledge, Stools, Steps with
    Oklahoma Flagstone
    10x10 Dry Bed Flagstone Seating area back of
    pool.
    Remove and Re-Install Fence Panels
    Recycle and Dump Fees
    Cleanup and Grade
    Gross Grade Finished off with Landscape Mix

    Deck -Travertine / Light Ivory Tumbled French Pattern
    Approximately: 835 sqft
    Broom Finished Concrete base 3000 PSI Base
    #3 Steel 12 OC
    All Edges 6 Turn Down
    Leave Existing Patio / Demo Extension
    Cap Existing Patio and New Concrete with
    Travertine Paver

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    Re: Thoughts on North Dallas pool before we sign

    Who is your builder?
    18,600 gal, IG, Jandy 60 sq ft DE filter, 2HP VS pump
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    Re: Thoughts on North Dallas pool before we sign

    It's a smaller company out of Plano. I can PM it to you. We talked to Hobert and Riverbend. Ended up with this company because we liked them more. They were more willing to work with us on the decking and smaller accessories.

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    I'd suggest an extra light. One light for a 40x20 pool will light it but not vibrantly and not the entire thing at the same level. Is there not a light in the spa at all?

    Some contracts will indicate information on reinstalling the fence and irrigation. It doesn't clearly show that here but you might want to make sure its specifically written in. Auto-filling in DFW isn't technically allowed any longer but most builders still do it. I was very specific about wanting this and my builder was very accommodating until he dug a trench to the hose bib. When I asked, he said it was to meet code but then when I reaffirmed the auto-fill they said they'd be happy to include it for $250. Even odder for us was that repairs to the entire irrigation were supposed to be done by them. However, oddly enough, it didn't include the damages to the irrigation for my neighbor's system that their tractors broke.

    Ultimately, the line to the hose bib was removed and they added the auto-fill free of charge but you need to remember to get everything in writing. We almost missed out on volleyball sleeves on our pool because they told us it was included on all pools. That wasn't fully true either. You might also ask... if you provide steel posts, will they re-install the fence with steel vs the wooden posts (if you have the wood posts on the fence).

    I don't see your diagram but be sure it accurately shows the location for umbrella sleeves, etc. I'm curious who your builder is also.
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    Re: Thoughts on North Dallas pool before we sign

    Welcome to TFP!
    A few quick comments:
    - your inline chlorinator will be for pucks, right? Those work well for certain things but are not the answer for long term pool care...if you read this article in pool school, it'll help you understand why!
    - I don't know if you've thought about a salt system in the future, but the Oklahoma flagstone seems to just disintegrate when exposed to salty water. If salt is not a consideration, it won't be an issue.
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    Re: Thoughts on North Dallas pool before we sign

    Thanks for feedback. Yes I believe the inline chlorinator is for pucks only. This will not be a salt water. I don't have a revised diagram of the pool. I'll post it as soon as I get it back.

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    Re: Thoughts on North Dallas pool before we sign

    In addition to what has been said already I would also avoid the SVRS Intelliflo, and look at just a VS Intelliflo, or even a much cheaper 2 speed pump. If you search the forum you will find numerous reports of the SVRS system having false tripping problems. There has been at least one report that Pentair has been surprised by fact people are even selling them into non-mandated private pool.

    Ike

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    Re: Thoughts on North Dallas pool before we sign

    Sorry, forgot the link to the article I meant to post!
    pool-school/pool_water_chemistry
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    Re: Thoughts on North Dallas pool before we sign

    30 sq is going to be too tight for spa! I am going with 50 myself and my pool is smaller dimension. Go with at least 40 sq with an led light in spa along with 2 leds in pool. More efficient than presented saving you substantially.
    Freeform gunite, 14,000 gallon saltwater sport pool.
    10 ton moss rock w/ waterfall, 50 sq ft raised spa.
    Bluestone coping, pebblesheen. Jandy pro flo 1 hp pump, legacy 325k heater.

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    Re: Thoughts on North Dallas pool before we sign

    I would stay away from the Intetillflo svrs pump.. All that pumps is going to do for you is cause you big headaches and after warranty is up high repair bills.

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    Re: Thoughts on North Dallas pool before we sign

    Here's a diagram of the pool. We signed last night and permits are being pulled.
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    Re: Thoughts on North Dallas pool before we sign

    Looks great! Please post pictures!
    11,200 gal, Pebble-Tec; Tristar 2-speed 1hp - Swimclear 325 ft2 cart - SWG - A & A in-floor cleaner - Heat pump. For the poolside cooking, a Yoder Wichita and a Big Steel Keg!
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    Re: Thoughts on North Dallas pool before we sign

    Quote Originally Posted by Keven
    I would stay away from the Intetillflo svrs pump.. All that pumps is going to do for you is cause you big headaches and after warranty is up high repair bills.

    Many of the cities in the north Texas area require by code an SVRS pump which I suspect is why the original poster has it in the plan.
    22K Gal, Chlorine, IG, Pebble Sheen Plaster, Jandy 60Sq Ft DE Filter, Intelliflo 3HP VS pump with SVRS, Rainbow 320 Chlorine Dispenser
    Other Equip - Jandy PDA PS6, Jandy LRZ400 Heater, Polaris 280 vacuum
    Features - Spa with fountain that empties into pool over waterfall spillway and separate table rock waterfall, Pool gets full sun until later afternoon and then partial sun
    Pool completed and filled 6/28/13

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    Re: Thoughts on North Dallas pool before we sign

    I agree, increase the size of the spa to at least 48 - 50 sqft. We did and it is perfect. Anything smaller and I would have regretted it.
    35'x16' IG geometric with 8'x6' spa (16.5K gallons); White Diamond Pebblesheen w/Abalone Shells; Jandy 460 cartridge filter; Jandy 2HP E pump; Jandy 400K heater; Water Tech Blue Diamond Pro; TF-100 w/SpeedStir

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    Digging started and finished Friday.
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    Steel completed Saturday
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    Plumbing completed Sunday
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    Re: Thoughts on North Dallas pool before we sign

    Looking good!!
    Tracy

    35' X 19' pool (pool depth: 3.5', 5.5', 4'. Perimeter 97) 2 HP Jandy (2 speed)
    Spa 9.6' X 7.4' (10 jets total- 4 on circ, 6 on 2hp booster, 6' cascade spillway to pool). Heater: 400 BTU LXi
    Tanning ledge and benches covered with stone. 2 LED pool lights, 1 LED spa light.
    PebbleSheen finish in Aqua Blue
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