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    AGP Closing without cover

    Hello, I am new to this forum and a first year above ground pool owner. I live in a very windy area with no trees around me. With this said, I would like to not cover my pool this winter and would like some advise as to what steps I should take to close. My understanding is that I should wait until the water temp is around 60 degrees, but besides that, I could use some advise. As an example, if I do not cover, do I also not use any type of center pillow? I have a fear of ice forning and ruining my liner. Could this occur? Any and all assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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    Re: AGP Closing without cover

    Welcome to tfp, slachey

    Where do you live, do you expect a frozen pool?

    Also take a look at this pool school article: http://www.troublefreepool.com/pool-...20group%20pool
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    Re: AGP Closing without cover

    I live in Northeaster PA and do expect freezing to occur

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    Re: AGP Closing without cover

    Can you cover it until the leaves have fallen, or is it too late?
    1) The size of your pool in gallons 4440.
    2) The type filter you have is an Intex 2500 gph and it has a re-useable fabric filter
    3) If your pool is an AG (above ground)
    4) Intex 15 by 48 metal frame.
    5) If you know, tell us the size pump 2500gph and the size (flow rate) of your filter.
    Southeastern, Pennsylvania.

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    Re: AGP Closing without cover

    I have no trees around me, so leaves are not an issue.

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    Re: AGP Closing without cover

    I have never taken mine down and have tried to keep a cover on with no success. This year I am covering until leaves have fallen and are cleaned up. I don't know if there is a difference cause you are a bit colder or not. But I am leaving it up. Gonna what is recommended here. pool-school/winterizing%20and%20closing%20your%20above%20group%20pool
    1) The size of your pool in gallons 4440.
    2) The type filter you have is an Intex 2500 gph and it has a re-useable fabric filter
    3) If your pool is an AG (above ground)
    4) Intex 15 by 48 metal frame.
    5) If you know, tell us the size pump 2500gph and the size (flow rate) of your filter.
    Southeastern, Pennsylvania.

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    Re: AGP Closing without cover

    Thanks for the reply.

    Linen,

    You asked where I live, but I have not heard back from you. What are your thoughts on not using a cover?

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    Re: AGP Closing without cover

    I've always used a solid cover and have plenty of FC when I open. Without a cover or with a semi-transparent I would imagine your FC will be 0 before opening.

    Liners are meant to withstand frozen water.
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    Re: AGP Closing without cover

    Thanks Speedo.

    So if Liners are meany to withstand frozen water, that makes me feel better about this apporach. My intent was to close late and open early, which I assume should help to minimize algae bloom.

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    Re: AGP Closing without cover

    I think it will be unlikely that you will stay algae free, but please let us know how it goes. The colder the water is when you close and open the better.

    No need for a pillow, they really only hold the cover up. I don't use one myself. Have you used them in the past? I ask, since they can help cause cover failures in windy climes. Also, folks with covers in windy places often use plastic wrap the wraps around the top rail and cover edge to seal that opening from letting air lift the cover.
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    Re: AGP Closing without cover

    Thanks Linen,

    I agree that the algae will not be eliminated, but it will be cutailed. I have never used a pillow, as this is the first year for my pool. My biggest concern was ruining the liner. Do you feel that the freezing water will not be a concern?

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    Re: AGP Closing without cover

    My water freezes solid...that happens cover or no cover...and I have yet to have any damage (4 years).

    The biggest issue afaik with no having a cover is the the uv from the sun is able to its part in "feeding" any potential algae.
    TFP Expert who uses Pool School and my TF100 test kit along with PoolMath for my: Round 11K gallon AGP with deep end, 20" sand filter, Matrix 1hp 2spd, 6 2ftX20ft solar panels (and solar cover!), Intex SWCG (copper bars disconnected) and a Rubadub hot tub (chlorine). The SLAM process is not finished until: 1. CC < 0.5 ppm, 2. An OCLT < 1.0 ppm and, 3. The water is crystal clear.

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    Re: AGP Closing without cover

    Just thought I would share with all that my pool made it though one of the harshest winters in NE PA history (without a winter cover) with flying colors! I have to say that I was pretty worried that the amount of ice formed would be a problem, but after a thorough inspection of the liner, it looks no worse for wear. Also, I wanted to officially open the pool before the water temp reached 60, which I did last week, and besides some organic matter on the pool bottom, the water is crystal clear. I am very pleased!

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    Thought I would share a photo as well. The landscaping, some furniture, and some LED lighting is all that is left to do before enjoying the summer!
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    Re: AGP Closing without cover

    What a view! I have a nice view too!
    I'd bet you my bikini you'll never get TFP water from a pool store!

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