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    newbie here

    hi everyone,

    I am a bran new pool owner. my pool has a hayward extreme cartridge filter. 52 inches high 18 feet accross i do have a solar cover any thoughts on a solar pill ? I know nothing about pools except you swim in them any info would be helpful
    i am here to learn all i can

    thanks
    AG 18 feet accross 52" high pool wall 7000 gallons .... pool math = 7600
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    Re: newbie here

    how many gallons is it i have heard several numbers
    AG 18 feet accross 52" high pool wall 7000 gallons .... pool math = 7600
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    Re: newbie here

    The solar pills have been shown not to work in the real world. Any wind at all and the alcohol gets moved to one side and becomes ineffective.

    Your pool holds about 7,000 gallons.

    A good place to start learning about your pool is by reading "The ABC's of Pool Chemistry" article in pool school. Once you've read that several times come back and ask anything you don't understand.
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    Re: newbie here

    i was told by a pool store... not to add stablizer for this year is this okto do i will be closing my pool in one week
    AG 18 feet accross 52" high pool wall 7000 gallons .... pool math = 7600
    Hayward extreme cartridge filter 100sq feet
    pool is heated by propane Hayward heater
    pool installed aug 12 2013

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    Re: newbie here

    Forget the pool store. Add your CYA by using an old sock filled with the CYA granules and tied off in front of a running return.

    For how much to add, go to http://www.poolcalculator.com
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    Re: newbie here

    what is swg ... not sure how to use the pool calculator ... what is old stock
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    Hayward extreme cartridge filter 100sq feet
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    Re: newbie here

    Quote Originally Posted by careingemt
    what is swg
    SWG=Salt Water Generator, sometimes also referred to as Salt Water Chlorine Generator. This device generates chlorine from salt and is a component of "salt water" pools. I'm assuming from your post that your pool is manually chlorinated and, if so, the SWG does not apply to your pool.

    Quote Originally Posted by careingemt
    not sure how to use the pool calculator
    Pool Calculator
    1. Enter the pool volume estimate at the top of the page of the calculator[/*:m:1q8u4i12]
    2. Go to the Suggested Goal Levels section towards the bottom of the color-banded sections and select one of the options from the three drop-down lists. For the Use suggested goal levels from I would select either Traditional Pool or TroubleFreePool.com. For Primary source of chlorine select Bleach (this is what we recommend for long-term chlorination). For Pool surface select Vinyl (with AG pool, assuming your liner is vinyl).[/*:m:1q8u4i12]
    3. For each of the parameters (e.g., FC, pH, TA, etc.) enter your current test results in the left column (the Now column).[/*:m:1q8u4i12]
    4. For each parameter, you will see Goal levels immediately above the Now and Target entries. These Goal levels are based on the options you selected in step 2.[/*:m:1q8u4i12]
    5. For each parameter, enter the Target (or desired) level in the right column. For example, if your FC = 2 and you want it to be 4, enter a 4 in the Target column for FC. [/*:m:1q8u4i12]
    6. To the right of the target column, the calculator will tell you how much chemical to add to reach the desired target level.[/*:m:1q8u4i12]


    Quote Originally Posted by careingemt
    what is old stock
    Literally, an old sock like a gym sock or similar. Pour the granules into the sock, tie the sock at the top, and place the sock containing the granules either in front of a return line or place into the skimmer. If you place in front of a return line, you can use either an old bleach bottle filled with water, sand, or pea gravel (the handle provides a convenient place to hang the sock from) or tie it off on a piece of sturdy patio furniture. The granules will dissolve within a few days or so.
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    First problem ... please help

    when i got home from work today.... i found my pump makes a humming sound no water flow almost like a stick is jammed in the motor also at the end of the motor it has a cap protecting all the wires on this cap it has 2 screw in plugs one is missing so i pluged it so no rain will get into the motor ... any ideas what my problem could be
    AG 18 feet accross 52" high pool wall 7000 gallons .... pool math = 7600
    Hayward extreme cartridge filter 100sq feet
    pool is heated by propane Hayward heater
    pool installed aug 12 2013

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    pump problem .... please help

    when i got home from work today.... i found my pump makes a humming sound no water flow almost like a stick is jammed in the motor also at the end of the motor it has a cap protecting all the wires on this cap it has 2 screw in plugs one is missing so i pluged it so no rain will get into the motor ... any ideas what my problem could be

    MOD EDIT: Threads merged. Please keep related questions in one thread. It will help us be aware of the "big picture."
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    Hayward extreme cartridge filter 100sq feet
    pool is heated by propane Hayward heater
    pool installed aug 12 2013

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    Re: pump problem .... please help

    If the shaft will turn by hand, it sounds like a bad start capacitor. Haven't done one myself, but they seem like an easy fix. Search the forum and you'll find lots of threads.
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    Re: newbie here

    Welcome to TFP.

    I see you pump question got answered, and you may get some more today. Enjoy the forum.
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    Re: pump problem ... please help

    Can you post a picture of your pump. Maybe a close up of the name plate and what your talking about. It maybe the start capacitor. That should be an easy fix.
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    Re: newbie here

    Mod post. I merged the one relevant post and deleted the other duplicate thread as there was no relevant help there. Please do not create duplicate posts/threads. Thanks, jblizzle
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    Re: newbie here

    I'm sorry ... when I went to see if I had any replies to my post it appeared to be deleted I thought I did something wrong so I re posted I'm new here I realized it was not deleted sorry
    AG 18 feet accross 52" high pool wall 7000 gallons .... pool math = 7600
    Hayward extreme cartridge filter 100sq feet
    pool is heated by propane Hayward heater
    pool installed aug 12 2013

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    Re: newbie here

    No worries, just helps to keep your story all together.
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    Re: newbie here

    Per smys question above, does the shaft turn freely? You may have to take that back cover off to try this. Make sure the breaker to the pump is off when you do.
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    Re: newbie here

    Took off cover ... yes it does turn freely
    AG 18 feet accross 52" high pool wall 7000 gallons .... pool math = 7600
    Hayward extreme cartridge filter 100sq feet
    pool is heated by propane Hayward heater
    pool installed aug 12 2013

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    Re: newbie here

    Often when the shaft turns freely, but the pump hums and does not start, it is likely either the start capacitor or the centrifugal switch.
    TFP Expert who uses Pool School and my TF100 test kit along with PoolMath for my: Round 11K gallon AGP with deep end, 20" sand filter, Matrix 1hp 2spd, 6 2ftX20ft solar panels (and solar cover!), Intex SWCG (copper bars disconnected) and a Rubadub hot tub (chlorine). The SLAM process is not finished until: 1. CC < 0.5 ppm, 2. An OCLT < 1.0 ppm and, 3. The water is crystal clear.

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    Re: newbie here

    Thanks everyone
    AG 18 feet accross 52" high pool wall 7000 gallons .... pool math = 7600
    Hayward extreme cartridge filter 100sq feet
    pool is heated by propane Hayward heater
    pool installed aug 12 2013

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