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Thread: Quote for Baltimore City pool - could I get some input?

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    Quote for Baltimore City pool - could I get some input?

    I think I'll be having a couple of quotes coming in over the next few days, but I'd love to get some input on this. Sorry, it is so long.

    We're in Baltimore City, and have some fun ahead of us - zoning variance to install the pool on the side instead of our back yard, neighborhood historical approval, city historical approval, and then city permit.

    This is a 36x18 rectangle sports pool with "angular form" with a bench and steps jutting off the sides. There are a few details that still need to be nailed down, that are not in this quote, and I have sent a few questions to this particular PB as well. I do want to see if it's possible to have part of the pool be raised bond beam so that there is additional seating (and I like the look).

    The depths will be 3.5 --> 5.5 --> 4 or 4.5. I would like sand, salt, LEDs, and have ended up wanting a couple of extras - deck jets (maybe) and therapy jets. No heater, and things can be phased. This quote is for gunnite (thinking about black onyx pebble sheen), but I want to get at least 1-2 other gunnite quotes and 1-2 vinyl quotes too.

    I would really like patios and pool to be under $60K, so that we can separately do the fence (split rail for 3/4, iron for 1/4), and am thinking longingly about a northern screen enclosure/DynaDome - but those will be phase 2 or 3.

    OK, here goes:

    Standard Base Pool Package 36'x18' (650 sq ft) $33,750
    Deep-end bench included
    Steps per design ("Wedding cake style") included
    (3) series post construction orientation program and first year opening/closing included
    Standard selections water line tile included
    Standard selections bullnose brick/paver coping or equivalent included
    White Marblite plaster interior finish included (+$10/sq ft to upgrade to Pebble Sheen, so $6500)
    Polaris 280 $1175 (asked to change this to Polaris 3900 robot)
    Initial water fill $1000
    Electrical (includes 100' run from existing house panel to pool equipment) $2125
    Pentair IntelliChlor salt chlorine generator $700
    Bio Guard mineral springs beginnings initial salt program $700
    Winter Mesh Cover $2600

    Standard base pool package includes:
    Construction and engineering plans
    building and electrical permits
    inspections
    grading and blending dirt spoils (we're on a hill - this will be helpful)
    3/8" rebar to be 12" on center
    4 perimeter bars on bond beam for reinforcement
    grounding and bonding
    2" PVC Schedule 40 lines
    Plumbing lines to run inside and under gunite shell in pool area
    plumbing lines to run outside of shell are on a direct line from a single point to the equipment pad
    Jandy never-lube schedule 80 valves
    2 main drains
    2 skimmers
    2 returns
    Gunite - minimum of 6" on pool floor, 14" bond beam around perimeter or pool shell, up to 3000 psi strength rating
    Sta-rite system 3 cartridge filter
    Sta-rite 1 hp dyna-pro filter pump
    1 500 w incandescent light
    Intermatic dual timer electrical panel

    Options I'm interested in:
    Upgrade to Intelliflo VS Pump $1575
    IntelliBrite LED color changing light (each) $1150
    EasyTouch 8 $1995
    ScreenLogic Mobile Touch $995
    (4) deck jets with separate pump $1395
    (4) spa air jets in deep end bench $1500

    Warranties - 3 years on pump, filter, automation, tile and coping, 5 year on pebble

    I know some of this looks high. I asked about buying my own intellibrites from Amazon, for instance, and he said they wouldn't be able to warranty them then. I also mentioned my concerns about the pipes going under the pool.

    So this is just pool - for patio (without prices yet), I'm looking at around 750 ft sq of permeable patio with flagstones and we'll plant creeping, low-growing plants, 550 sq ft of stained concrete, and then we're looking at 1600 sq ft of flat grass (which we can plant) - we're trying to get rid of all our other grass, it's just weird to be thinking about encouraging it to grow!

    Thanks,
    Elsa
    1600 gal Arctic Wolverine Swim Spa, approx 8' x 14' with Niagara swim current

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    Re: Quote for Baltimore City pool - could I get some input?

    Compared to what I paid, that looks VERY FAIR for the base pool package.

    I am not an expert, so can't pick it apart...other than no need for a variable speed pump, get a 2 speed.
    14,750 GAL IG Fiberglass (16 x 33) NE Ohio || Jandy 1HP 2 speed Pump || Waterco MultiCyclone 16 Centrifugal pre-filter (removed due to not working with sand filter) || 30" 575 Lb. Sand Filter || AquaCal 140K BTU Heat Pump || Solar Cover || Inter-fab Adrenaline Slide || GLI Monsoon Solar Cover Reel || K-2006C Test Kit || BBB with Liquid Chlorine Stenner Injection || Rayner Mighty Mesh Winter Cover

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    Re: Quote for Baltimore City pool - could I get some input?

    toofast - OK, well that is good to hear, thank you for your quick response. I wasn't sure if I needed VS with the pool, deck jets, and therapy jets (if we got all 3) - I wasn't sure if I could run them all off the same pump or not, or if that is completely unrelated. I think the PB is coming back on Saturday to shoot elevations so we can see if what I want to do is feasible, so I'll ask about 2 speed instead of VS.

    I had been surprised how reasonable the base was, but how expensive the options seemed - they started to add up very quickly!
    1600 gal Arctic Wolverine Swim Spa, approx 8' x 14' with Niagara swim current

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    Re: Quote for Baltimore City pool - could I get some input?

    Based on the quotes I have gotten in New England those prices seem pretty good, better than the ones I have gotten, that is for sure.

    I am doing a bigger pool, a spill over spa, and some other stuff, but your quote looks fair to me.
    24X44 IG Vinyl Custom Shaped Pool, Starite S7M400 Cartridge Filter, Starite Sumpermax VS Pump, built July 2015, TF-100 Test Kit, Pentair Intellichlor IC40 SWG, NG Starite SR400 Heater, Easytouch with Screen Logic, Magicstream Laminars, Bullfrog A7 Spa

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    Re: Quote for Baltimore City pool - could I get some input?

    Hi Elsa,

    I would be very interested in hearing which PB you go with. I am in the Baltimore area and contemplating a pool with similar dimensions as yours (40' x 20', in ground gunite). Good Luck with your project!
    ~30K gal, IG 20' x 40' gunite ... maybe next year ;)

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    Re: Quote for Baltimore City pool - could I get some input?

    Gruk - we're still looking and have to get a couple more quotes. I'd be interested to hear things from your perspective too. We've talked with Johnson, Browning, Catalina, Town and Country, Lothorian, and Hohne so far. That sounds like a lot, but we don't have that many official quotes yet.

    Elsa
    1600 gal Arctic Wolverine Swim Spa, approx 8' x 14' with Niagara swim current

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