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    TF-100 Kit on the way......Question in the mean time

    Ok,
    I have my first pool up a little less then two weeks. I already ordered the TF-100 but it is not here yet. Anyways my question is I have well water with metal in it, I used Jacks Magic "Blue Stuff" a whole 32oz bottle. Man worked great over night and pool was looking good. It only lasted two days and went back to the way it was. While I don't mind putting more in it can get expensive every 2 days which I did add another half bottle......Here is my latest test from LESLIE'S while I wait on my TF-100. I also brought my FC up the next day after I adding Jacks. (FC was 3 when I added Jacks)

    FC 6
    TC 6
    CA 50
    TA 130
    PH 7.0

    1) What can I do to make it last longer
    2) Is there another product other then Jacks ($26.00 32 oz) that is less expensive?
    3) Is that normal to have to keep adding that much every few days?
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    Re: TF-100 Kit on the way......Question in the mean time

    I think there are other sequestrants we would recommend for you. Have you read this article: pool-school/metal%20stains

    It is normal to have to keep adding it, although I am not sure how often. And when you raise the FC level, that will have a tendancy to make the discoloration come back.
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    Re: TF-100 Kit on the way......Question in the mean time

    I have read the article but was hoping to get somebody that has experienced this problem before. I thought it turned pretty dang fast, so hoping once I get enough in there then a weekly maintence program with just a few ounces added every week will work.
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    Re: TF-100 Kit on the way......Question in the mean time

    It looks like you have a lot of metal in the water based on how greent he water turned, so you may need to use more sequestrant than others ... hopefully someone with similar issues can chime in.
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    Re: TF-100 Kit on the way......Question in the mean time

    I believe that green color to be triggered by the addition of chlorine. It precipitates the iron out of your water and, the good news is, if you run the filter 24/7, I think that iron (just that which precipitated...not all of it) will filter out.

    In time, the water will turn back to blue and you will have less iron to deal with. I can't tell you how long that will take (in my pool, 3 days is pretty close) nor can I tell you for a fact I am correct.

    If you have one, can you add your refill water through a water softener? That'll eliminate the problem in time.
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    Re: TF-100 Kit on the way......Question in the mean time

    Any suggestions on other less expensive products other then Jacks that works?
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    Re: TF-100 Kit on the way......Question in the mean time

    I would just let the filter take care of the iron, assuming that the Intex filter can handle it. That is what I do when I have to add water to my pool. It usually clears up in a few days.
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    Re: TF-100 Kit on the way......Question in the mean time

    I have mild iron in my water so when i fill i run the hose through a homemade prefilter of craft batting and a tube sock it removes most of my issue. You might try a similar method fastened over a return to help filter out some of the stuff
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    Re: TF-100 Kit on the way......Question in the mean time

    I will give it a couple days and let the filter run 24/7 and see what happens. I left a ball floating in the water and boy it did not take long to get a ring stain around it (24 hr)
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    RE: Update TF-100 Kit on the way......Question in the mean

    Ok, TF-100 should be here hopefully tomorrow or Saturday if UPS delivers. In the mean time should I add Muriatic Acid to lower the PH and some Bleach for more Chlorine? Or just wait for the TF-100 so I can get better results? Here are todays pic. & cheapo test results
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    Installed 7/27/13 TF-100 On order "Freshman in Pool School"

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    Re: TF-100 Kit on the way......Question in the mean time

    If you chose UPS as the shipper for your TF-100, you should have received a "shipped" notice from them with an expected delivery date (which they meet about 99% of the time). Check your email you provided us when you ordered. Unfortunately, they do not deliver on Saturdays (without a HUGE premium)
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    Re: TF-100 Kit on the way......Question in the mean time

    Expected date is tomorrow by the end of the day.

    Thank you Dave.
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    About to do my first SLAM

    mod edit: Please keep you posts on this issue in the same thread so that we know the history. Thanks, linen

    Ok, my new test kit will be here today. If everything is right I am going to start slamming this afternoon. Here is my question, Since I have a lot of metals in the water and I am sure the bleach will affect my sequestrants agents already in the water. What should I do about it? Slam it and wait for the to levels of FC come down and add some sequestrants?
    Eugene, New Pool Noobie
    Intex 12' x 24' x 52" AG 1600 gph Sand pump Krystal Klear,8400 Gallons
    Installed 7/27/13 TF-100 On order "Freshman in Pool School"

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