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    LED Lights: 110V vs 12V

    Installing 2 Pentair IntelliBrite 5G Color LED lights in a lagoon shaped pool. Trying to decide on 110V or 12V models. Any pros and cons?
    Unfortunately Pentair doesn't have light output listed under spec section at http://www.pentairpool.com/pool-pro/pro ... led-74.htm so it's difficult to find a difference between 12V vs 110V models.
    Lagoon shape, 23,600 Gal, steel walls by International Swimming Pools, "ultra-seam" liner by Latham, Pentair 011018 IntelliFlo 3HP Variable Speed Pump, PentAir CCP420 filter, Heat Siphon Z575HP, PentAir IC40 SWG, 2 LED Lights (Pentair Intellibrite 5G, 110V). 4 x 1.5’’return lines, 2 x 2’’skimmer lines, 1.5’’ waterfall line. All plumbing is "TigerFlex" pipe, all lines plumbed individually. Deck: travertine glued over concrete.

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    Re: LED Lights: 110V vs 12V

    Six of one, half dozen of the other. It really doesn't matter. Some people like the 12volt because they think they're safer.
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    Re: LED Lights: 110V vs 12V

    Quote Originally Posted by Bama Rambler
    Six of one, half dozen of the other. It really doesn't matter. Some people like the 12volt because they think they're safer.
    Thanks for the reply!
    Are you saying 110V and 12V models share the same spec? "Safety" factor is not in question here.
    Lagoon shape, 23,600 Gal, steel walls by International Swimming Pools, "ultra-seam" liner by Latham, Pentair 011018 IntelliFlo 3HP Variable Speed Pump, PentAir CCP420 filter, Heat Siphon Z575HP, PentAir IC40 SWG, 2 LED Lights (Pentair Intellibrite 5G, 110V). 4 x 1.5’’return lines, 2 x 2’’skimmer lines, 1.5’’ waterfall line. All plumbing is "TigerFlex" pipe, all lines plumbed individually. Deck: travertine glued over concrete.

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    Re: LED Lights: 110V vs 12V

    With LED lights, getting the brightness isn't an issue as the voltage is stepped down for the lamps anyway.
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    Re: LED Lights: 110V vs 12V

    Quote Originally Posted by Bama Rambler
    With LED lights, getting the brightness isn't an issue as the voltage is stepped down for the lamps anyway.
    Now we are talking!
    So each 110V LED unit has a transformer (to 12V?) built into it. Which makes it prone to go bad because of a surge spike (then probably the whole light needs to be replaced, very $$$).
    So my rationale says go with ONE 12V transformer and TWO 12V pool lights.
    In addition, having separate 12V transformer will allow me to wire another low voltage features such as landscape lights!
    Thanks again for the insight!
    Lagoon shape, 23,600 Gal, steel walls by International Swimming Pools, "ultra-seam" liner by Latham, Pentair 011018 IntelliFlo 3HP Variable Speed Pump, PentAir CCP420 filter, Heat Siphon Z575HP, PentAir IC40 SWG, 2 LED Lights (Pentair Intellibrite 5G, 110V). 4 x 1.5’’return lines, 2 x 2’’skimmer lines, 1.5’’ waterfall line. All plumbing is "TigerFlex" pipe, all lines plumbed individually. Deck: travertine glued over concrete.

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    Re: LED Lights: 110V vs 12V

    Your rationale is not quite correct. There is enough electronics in the arrays themselves that having the transformer separate won't really help the failure rate. Also you can't connect landscape lights to the pool lights and still meet code.
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    Re: LED Lights: 110V vs 12V

    Quote Originally Posted by Bama Rambler
    Your rationale is not quite correct. There is enough electronics in the arrays themselves that having the transformer separate won't really help the failure rate.
    Maybe... But based on my experience transformer fries first.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bama Rambler
    Also you can't connect landscape lights to the pool lights and still meet code.
    That's the bummer Why can't they share the same transformer plugged into GFCI outlet?
    Lagoon shape, 23,600 Gal, steel walls by International Swimming Pools, "ultra-seam" liner by Latham, Pentair 011018 IntelliFlo 3HP Variable Speed Pump, PentAir CCP420 filter, Heat Siphon Z575HP, PentAir IC40 SWG, 2 LED Lights (Pentair Intellibrite 5G, 110V). 4 x 1.5’’return lines, 2 x 2’’skimmer lines, 1.5’’ waterfall line. All plumbing is "TigerFlex" pipe, all lines plumbed individually. Deck: travertine glued over concrete.

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