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    New Doughboy Pool - Comments Welcome

    Hello, I am new to this forum but so thankful I found it before I purchased an AGP. I came upon it as I was searching the internet for information on the best brands of AGP. Just this morning I received a quote on the setup below.... please tell me your thoughts (good and bad accepted). I would much rather know now before I purchase than later. Thanking you in advance!!!!

    24'X16" Autumn Breeze (we plan on counter sinking in the ground at least 2 ft with wood deck around it)
    20 mil EZ Clip Liner ...(Madrid, Evening Star, Majestic, or Trinity)
    Filter - Pentair Sand Dollar (SD35)
    Pump- Pentair Dynamo 3/4 HP
    Skimmer- Doughboy Standard skimmer ... it would cost $80 to upgrade to the larger size (Doughboy Classic Skimmer)
    Deck ladder- It is the 200200T model made by Main Access. (350 lb. weight limit)

    What would you change to make this set-up better? I do intend on using the BBB method.
    Esther Williams Classic, 30' Round AGP, Hayward Pro Series Sand Filter, Pentair 340104 Dynamo 115V Single Speed

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    Re: New Doughboy Pool - Comments Welcome

    Everything looks pretty good except the filter. That SD35 is pretty small for that pool. I'd want at least the SD60 and even the SD80 if possible.
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    Re: New Doughboy Pool - Comments Welcome

    Thank you Dave. I will ask to upgrade the filter. Or should I go with just a cartridge filter?
    And you think that pump is alright? I believe it is just a one speed not a two speed.
    And should I upgrade to the larger skimmer?
    Esther Williams Classic, 30' Round AGP, Hayward Pro Series Sand Filter, Pentair 340104 Dynamo 115V Single Speed

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    Re: New Doughboy Pool - Comments Welcome

    If you have any restrictions on water or backwash, a cartridge filter may be a good choice.
    I think that pump would be fine, but they're probably going to upgrade the pump too. If they do, be sure to get a 2-speed.
    I prefer the larger skimmer, but that's just a personal preference. I'm sure the standard skimmer will work fine.
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    No I don't have any restrictions at all.... just want a good setup for less headaches in the future. I want it setup right the first time and be happy with it!!
    Esther Williams Classic, 30' Round AGP, Hayward Pro Series Sand Filter, Pentair 340104 Dynamo 115V Single Speed

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    Re: New Doughboy Pool - Comments Welcome

    Go for a big sand filter, 2 speed pump, wide skimmer and.. a deep end!

    2' buried w/ decking is exactly what I would do (along w/ deep end assuming budget permits).


    My bottom is sand, so naturally I always wonder if we should have had a foam bottom put in.


    I just linked a build in my reference thread that's a dough boy buried w/ a deck.
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    Re: New Doughboy Pool - Comments Welcome

    Have you decided against a deep end? That is something that I would recommend. It's nice to have that extra bit of cannonball room.

    (thanks for the link and compliments on the set up, Speedo)
    32' Doughboy Desert Spring (Blue Bayou liner) Buried with Deep End
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    Re: New Doughboy Pool - Comments Welcome

    Just not really sure it is needed... I am only 5'1 and our daughter is 4yrs old, so we really didn't think it would benefit us any. ??
    Esther Williams Classic, 30' Round AGP, Hayward Pro Series Sand Filter, Pentair 340104 Dynamo 115V Single Speed

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    I don't have a deep end and don't really miss it. If I were jumping in the pool, I might... but I enjoy the fact that the kids have the whole pool to play in. If I had a bigger pool, I might consider it. I have a depth of 4 feet over the whole pool.

    In a 24x16 pool, the deep end would not be very big as I think you need to leave a 3 foot shelf at the base of the wall and then you need to slope the deep end so it would be 10 feet at the widest top edge and only a couple (5?) feet wide at the deepest. If you stay flat, you can use a simple Aquabug to clean the floor.
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    Re: New Doughboy Pool - Comments Welcome

    Quote Originally Posted by TaraMM
    Just not really sure it is needed... I am only 5'1 and our daughter is 4yrs old, so we really didn't think it would benefit us any. ??
    Kids love to jump in pools, she won't be 4 yrs old forever . Don't you have any other friends and family that will be enjoying your pool with you? I'd add a deep end :P .
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    Re: New Doughboy Pool - Comments Welcome

    The side walls of the Doughboy I am looking at has 52" sides... with that being said how deep can I expect the
    water to be?
    Esther Williams Classic, 30' Round AGP, Hayward Pro Series Sand Filter, Pentair 340104 Dynamo 115V Single Speed

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    I had the 28' round version of the Autumn Breeze installed this past May and wrapped up the deck surrounding it last month. I'd recommend a couple things...

    1. If you can swing it, I'd take a look at installing a Vermiculite or Pool Crete bottom instead of sand. We have a sand bottom and stayed out of the pool for 2 weeks to help the bottom settle but I can still feel the sand move under my feet a bit when I push off. The price of the Vermiculite or Pool Crete was a bit steep so we passed.

    2. I would highly recommend a deep end. Our shallow end is about 4.5 feet and the deep end close to 6 feet. If I'm not mistaken, the Autumn Breeze comes in a 48" or 52" wall height so you're probably looking at a depth of 42" to 46" without the deep end - probably too deep for your 4 year old to touch the bottom. Our daughter just turned seven, can barely touch the bottom and she has a couple of friends that can't touch the bottom - we have them wear life jackets if they can't swim. To help a bit with the little ones, we purchased a wedding cake style step - the Confer Curve Step. This allows more than one kid to sit on the steps at a time if needed. My wife and I really enjoy the deep end and while you can go as deep as seven feet, we decided not to as the actual size of the 7' deep end would have been very small due to the slope needed to go that deep. We didn't think anyone would enjoy standing on that big of a slope and would turn into wasted space when we have parties and such. The deep end opens up some other possibilities also, like a slide. We're already talking about adding one next year.

    3. Not sure where you live but you may decide to add a pool heater later. When my electrician ran the electric for my pool, he also installed an underground natural gas line and capped the ends. If/when we decide to add a heater, the gas line is already there and saves the cost of trenching it in later.

    In the short time we've had the pool there are a number of things we didn't think we wanted but now are leaning towards installing next year... the slide and heater are just two.
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    Re: New Doughboy Pool - Comments Welcome

    Just out of curiosity, what is the cost or that pool package?

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    The one I mentioned in my original message is priced at $4100 plus tax and installation.
    How does that compare to others?
    Esther Williams Classic, 30' Round AGP, Hayward Pro Series Sand Filter, Pentair 340104 Dynamo 115V Single Speed

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    I have no idea how that compares. I was wanting a similar sized pool and just wanted to know how much to expect as well.

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    my thoughts: I wish I could ditch the doughboy brands of skimmer , return and pump just because of their weird size molded barb fittings. it makes hard plumbing the pool much harder. would they be willing to offer other brands of that stuff? also with their pump and filter I have not found any place other than a doughboy dealer to buy parts, so you don't get much in the way of price competition.
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    Re: New Doughboy Pool - Comments Welcome

    So let me ask this of you guys/gals....
    What do you think would be the ideal setup for a 16x24 oval pool as far as the pump, filter, etc?
    Please be as specific as possible since I am pretty new to all this terminology.
    thanking you in advance for your help.
    Esther Williams Classic, 30' Round AGP, Hayward Pro Series Sand Filter, Pentair 340104 Dynamo 115V Single Speed

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    Re: New Doughboy Pool - Comments Welcome

    Well, my husband, daughter and I went to one of the local pool stores late yesterday afternoon to look at the pool they had installed.
    Now I am second guessing the size I want... I looked at a 28' round palm shores by doughboy and it looked nice. Does anyone have this
    pool? Any comments regarding round pool vs oval pool? Thanks...
    Esther Williams Classic, 30' Round AGP, Hayward Pro Series Sand Filter, Pentair 340104 Dynamo 115V Single Speed

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    I like the rounds better than the ovals. Personal preference and no buttresses
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    Re: New Doughboy Pool - Comments Welcome

    We debated the oval and round. We ended up going 32' round because the cost of the pool and install was considerably less than going oval. We don't regret our decision.
    32' Doughboy Desert Spring (Blue Bayou liner) Buried with Deep End
    300# Sand Filter, 1.5 HP Pump Hayward
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