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    waterfall

    thinking about buying this off craigslist ad it is foam and fiberglass. i have deck all around my ag pool . question is how would be the best way to hook this up to existing pool pump or run a seperate pump just for waterfall ? i have a 2 speed 2hp pool pump now
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    Re: waterfall

    waterfall is about 4 foot high if that helps
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    Re: waterfall

    I would recommend a separate pump. That way you can run it without having to run the main pump.
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    Re: waterfall

    the ones like they sell at lowes wander what gph i would need .submersible or a pump with just a line going into pool ?
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    Re: waterfall

    what kind of pump could i get that i could just mount outside of pool and run a clear water line from pool to pump and pump to waterfall that way the only thing in pool would be the intake line?
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    Re: waterfall

    come on guys help me out here i am going to look at this tonight need to know what kind of pump to get for it ?
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    Re: waterfall

    I can't tell how the plumbing is configured.

    Are you planning on sitting the pump inside the pool or in an overflow basin?
    I'd think you'd need as large a pump as you can get in one of those submersible units.
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    Re: waterfall

    i would really like to get a pump that is not in the water. an external pump that way the only thing that is in the water would be the intake line ? as far as plumbing im sure i will have to do some rigging on this thing it is 4 foot high 4foot wide 5 foot long all it is is the shell .
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    Re: waterfall

    this is where it hooks up underneath
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    Re: waterfall

    Most of the pond pumps you find at lowes are rated at zero head so you have to take the height of the fountain outlet into account when buying a pump.
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    Re: waterfall

    what about this Danner 02720 Pond Mag 9.5 950-Gallon-Per-Hour Pump with Foam Prefilter
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    Re: waterfall

    That's a submersible pump and it has a 12' cutoff. I figure you're looking at about 6 to 8 feet of head so the flow out of that pump is going to be really low.
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    Re: waterfall

    any ideas on a pump for this
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    Re: waterfall

    i dont understand all this head and cutoff language
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    Re: waterfall

    Basically head is the height in feet that the pump has to move the water.
    The cutoff is the maximum height that the pump is able to pump. Once you reach that height the pump won't even pump water out of an open pipe. From the pump discharge to the cutoff height the flow from the pump gets less and less the closer you get to cutoff.

    I hesitate to recommend a pump because I don't know nearly enough about the installation.
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    Re: waterfall

    I feel the same thing. If you put the pump on the deck, you need a suction line to draw water up (suction) and another tube to pump the water the top of the waterfall. The head would be the distance between the pump and the top of the falls. And the pump is now air cooled and creating noise. If you have pump IN the falls, you need a submersible.

    You are asking us about things we don't know. Try talking with a pond or waterfall expert at a store or maybe a pond forum.

    If you were talking about an Intex pump or a Hayward, we would know... but your not.
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    Re: waterfall

    OK THX
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    Re: waterfall

    i think i am going to just hook it up to the pool pump with a diverter valve are there any schematics on here as to what i would need. my set up now is 2 inch pvc coming from filter into pool heater. back out from heater into pool . would i just cut the pvc pipe going into pool and run it to thewaterfall from there what kind of valves etc
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    Re: waterfall

    That will certainly work and I'd just use a standard ball valve unless you plan on automating it. Then you need a pool valve so you can add an actuator to it.
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    Re: waterfall

    yeah i think that is the way i am going to go from talking to a pond and waterfall store they are talking about needing a very high dollar pump to do what i want $200 plus no way too much money. would i need a ball valve for the line going to the waterfall and one going to the pool return probably would make things easier to adjust right . there anyone on here that has done this i did a search no luck
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