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    Sodium Bromide to combat Mustard algae in SWG pool

    First off, great forum. been lurking for a while.

    Got a problem with Mustard Algea.

    28000 gallon painted plaster pool

    Intelliclhor IC40. Sand filter.

    TA 76
    CH 200
    CYA 45
    Borates 35
    PH 7.6-7.8
    FC 3-5 ppm
    Salt 3400

    Water is crystal clear, but I Mustard algae growing on the steps if I don't brush them often or if the FC drops down to 1 or 2 ppm

    I noticed most treatment for Mustard algae is Sodium Bromide. I guessing my SWG will split this into bromide.

    Think if I put a lot in this could cure my problem?
    28000 gallon painted plaster
    In pecan grove in mid GA
    Intellichlor SWG
    i try to keep-
    80 PPM CYA
    50PPM borates
    3200-3800 salt
    usually no problems.

    Lots of kids, dogs , wild life in pool...everyone but me.

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    Not all SWGs are compatible with sodium bromide. Some cells can be ruined by it so consult your owners manual before adding it!

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    Waterbear.... having used Sodium Bromide and not knowing what I was doing at the time, what is it and what does it do, that bleach doesn't?
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    The Sodium Bromide is used in conjunction with several shock treatments to activate it. Sodium bromide is bromine salt. By itself, it does nothing. Adding the shock dose, or having the SCG continually generate chlorine, will eventually reactivate the bromine salt.
    The problem is that the resulting bromine (instead of chlorine) will not be sufficient to maintain a safe residual, since there is not enough of a sodium bromide bank to generate enough sanitizer.

    The treatment will rid the mustard algae very well. The pool will look great for about 2 weeks, your chlorine residual (which will actually be converting to a bromine residual) will drop off, then the algae will come back.
    It's not that the sodium bromide will react with the salt blades to damage it. It's the fact that you're not going to be able to get a safe residual, where the first reaction is to increase the SCG output. That's where the problem occurs. The higher output will result in shorter cell life.

    You can use this treatment, but you will have to turn OFF the SCG, for about a two week period. Do the Mustard Algae treatment, but continue to maintain shock dosages until you see the chlorine residual being maintained without having to add more chlorine.

    Better yet, as frustratedpoolmom is suggesting, just use plain ole bleach to get rid of it.

    Shock, brush, vaccum to waste.
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    hMMMM

    Well, i added about 8 oz today. I can't find anything about it one way or the other on the net or owners manual.

    Only cautions i see-

    Don't fertilizer
    Never use dry acid
    Don't add chemicals with cell on
    Don't let stabilizer drop below 50 ppm

    With Sodium Bromide being a common chemical, looks like they would put a caution. I gotta believe a small amount is not going to hurt.
    28000 gallon painted plaster
    In pecan grove in mid GA
    Intellichlor SWG
    i try to keep-
    80 PPM CYA
    50PPM borates
    3200-3800 salt
    usually no problems.

    Lots of kids, dogs , wild life in pool...everyone but me.

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    It may or may not. Just remember to keep an eye on your sanitizer level and if you find it dropping and not being able to be maintained, turn your SCG OFF, and hand treat with shock doses of chlorine to maintain a safe residual.
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    Sodium bromide is part of the bromine based sanitation family, sometimes used instead of chlorine, particularly in spa's. The version used for bromine systems is slightly different and sticks around for a long time. But for chlorine pool use it is in a comparatively unstable form that breaks down and goes away after a while. FC turns it into bromine, which kills algae.

    The main use of sodium bromide is to get around very high CYA levels. Sodium bromide is not affected by CYA, so it will work at reasonable doses even when chlorine requires huge doses because of high CYA levels. The problem is that FC activates bromine and goes away and bromine is not stable in sunlight and deactivates. So you have a tricky transition until the sodium bromide breaks down, when you can't hold a FC level. That creates enough problems that it is rarely worth using.

    A few SWG systems are designed to work with bromine systems and are fine with sodium bromide, but many SWGs can suffer cell plate damage from sodium bromide.
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    so the small amount I added should break down?

    I was reading and in spa the sodium bromide levels are much higher. I figure i have about 2.5 ppm and spa's run 3000 ppm if I read correct.

    Thanks for the help.
    28000 gallon painted plaster
    In pecan grove in mid GA
    Intellichlor SWG
    i try to keep-
    80 PPM CYA
    50PPM borates
    3200-3800 salt
    usually no problems.

    Lots of kids, dogs , wild life in pool...everyone but me.

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