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    replacing eyeball returns

    I have 7x of this style return, plus 2x 3/4" female thread ports that look like a return should be there. They're all cracked or missing. I took this part into our local pool store and he said they didn't have any returns this small. He also tried to convince me that I needed to remove part of the pipe that's in the wall. Not happening.

    I think I just need this 8-sided nut plus an eyeball for each return, and I can screw them into the existing male thread jutting out of the wall. It looks to be about 1.25", but a 1.25" pipe thread is too big for the nut.

    I browsed around online and couldn't find any replacement parts that look this simple. Everything looks like a multi-part diverter/return assembly.



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    Re: replacing eyeball returns

    Return eyeball fittings always have three pieces, the two that appears in your photos, and a third that looks like a short piece of threaded pipe. With the eyeball fitting removed you should have a hole with female threads.

    Eyeball fittings are fairly standard parts, and should be available just about anywhere. For example, Amazon has lots of them.
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    Re: replacing eyeball returns

    You are missing a piece it is as your pool store said still in the wall
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    Re: replacing eyeball returns

    I'm not "missing" any pieces. I am not going to try to extract the third piece from inside the wall for fear of breaking off the pipe inside the wall. This pool is REALLY old.

    So I guess I will buy a three-piece replacement and just throw away the internal pipe part? I'll have to check a 1.5" pipe thread to make sure it is a match; that seems like the most common size.
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    Re: replacing eyeball returns

    The assembly will look similar to this
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/3hx1evyt780i2 ... .10.22.jpg
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    Re: replacing eyeball returns

    so I don't want to extract the third piece (the once inside the wall) since it is in perfectly fine condition; I just want to replace the outer two pieces
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    Re: replacing eyeball returns

    Then do as you suggested and buy the assembly and only use the outer cover and the eyeball. The pool store should have a few in stock take yours with you and test fit the threads to be sure it will work
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    Re: replacing eyeball returns

    I brought my return into two local pool stores to check the size. They had three different models, but none fit my Inner Diameter (they were all larger than what I have). I checked the thread pitch at Home Depot and couldn't find a match in the plumbing section. 1 1/4" is too big, and 1" is too small. aybe 1 1/8"?

    Searching on Amazon has not turned up any results. The listed size corresponds to the part that goes into the wall. What I care about is the outer ring diameter.
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    Re: replacing eyeball returns

    If your only replaceing the outer piece your search might be a frustrating one im afraid. Have you looked to see if the new returns match the inner threads?(I know you didnt want to try and remove them)
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    Re: replacing eyeball returns

    One of the returns that is missing the inner sleeve, which allows me to feel inside. It seems to be about 3/4" female thread. Is this about right for a new return? It seems like the whole assembly will stick out of the wall too far, since the body of the new assembly is larger than 3/4" diameter.
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    Re: replacing eyeball returns

    The closest thing to your picture I found browsing is this one: http://sospoolsupplies.com/pool_spa_eco ... y/34/4566/

    Not sure if it's the same or not.
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    Re: replacing eyeball returns

    Quote Originally Posted by tcat
    The closest thing to your picture I found browsing is this one: http://sospoolsupplies.com/pool_spa_eco ... y/34/4566/

    Not sure if it's the same or not.
    ooh! that looks similar. I can't tell where it is threaded...just sent them an email
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    Re: replacing eyeball returns

    You might contact this place (that jet is down near the bottom), to confirm fit.
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