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    Balanced but sightly green and cloudy????

    Hello my pool is an Intex 18x48 Above Ground Pool. This is my first pool ever and only ever done BBB. I've read pool school and kept a very pretty pool. Until now.

    The water was crystal clear and pretty until the beginning of July. It just started getting cloudy now and then.

    I first noticed I needed more and more bleach on a daily basis so I checked my CYA level and it had dropped from 40 to 30. I added more stabilizer and continued checking my FC level and adjusting each night to 6 (Pool Calc says my goal should be 3 to 7 and the CYA chart says 5). I shocked the pool on the 2nd for the first time and the water went back to clear the next day.

    I test morning and night, clean the pool daily, brush weekly (unless needed), vacuum weekly, clean filter cartridge weekly, change filter monthly.

    The water was a little cloudy this morning with a little staining on the bottom. Tonight it has a green tinge to it, cloudy and the bottom is staining brown (like tea stains) around the edge but my numbers are kept in the proper range. Tested first thing this am and was still testing above 5.

    Tonight's numbers are as follows: (HTH 6 Kit)
    FC = 2 added 40 oz of 8.25 bleach (we've had high 90s to 100s temp here)
    PH = 7.2
    TA = 150
    CH = 250
    CYA = 30 (lower again after adding 12 oz liquid stabilizer yesterday for a 35 level)

    Could the high heat be affecting my CYA & bleach levels? Also my vacuum uses the water hose. I think that might be added to the loss of cya.

    I usually buy my bleach at ALDI. This last batch is dated 5/27/2013 which seems old to me.

    I am thinking I need to shock the pool again. I only have a basic HTH 6 test kit for chlorine so how do I know how much bleach to add the next night if it only tests to 5?

    Any thoughts?
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    Re: Balanced but sightly green and cloudy????

    Welcome to TFP!

    What is the source of your fill water (well or municipal)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deb_B
    Tonight it has a green tinge to it, cloudy and the bottom is staining brown (like tea stains) around the edge but my numbers are kept in the proper range.
    One quick way to determine if these stains are from metals in the water or whether they are of organic origin is to take a Vitamin C tablet and hold/gently rub on the stain. If it begins to lift after about 30-60 seconds, then it is a metal stain. If not, then it is organic.
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    Re: Balanced but sightly green and cloudy????

    The heat isn't affecting CYA. CYA only goes down when water leaves the pool due to vacuuming/draining or splashout. High heat will increase your FC consumption.

    Best way would be to buy a FAS-DPD test to supplement your kit, because yes, to properly SLAM the pool, you have to know the FC level.
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    Re: Balanced but sightly green and cloudy????

    I woke up this morning to a green swamp. I can still see the bottom but it is gross.

    Testing with Vit C is not an option for me as I do not want to climb in the pool. The stains are on the bottom. eew... I think I can bribe my hubby to do it but I really think I am dealing with algae.

    Oh and I do not have well water.

    This morning's numbers (regular oto kit)

    FC 5
    PH 7.2

    The rest I did not retest from last night..

    I added enough bleach to get the FC level up to the CYA chart recommended level of 12 just to get something started.

    I have on hand from when we purchased the pool 2 pouches of HTC Shock and one 16 oz bottle of shock and swim.

    Can I do the HTH way and just add the shock product each day until it clears since I don't have the good test kit?

    Thanks everyone for your replies.
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    Re: Balanced but sightly green and cloudy????

    Need a good kit. I'm sure it's been done without, but if you choose to go that route, there will be a lot of time and money wasted along the way.
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    Re: Balanced but sightly green and cloudy????

    "Shock product" is going to add CYA (most likely) or Calcium (a little less likely) depending on which product you use.

    Please read through this so you'll understand what the process entails.
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    Re: Balanced but sightly green and cloudy????

    No one has the k 2006 locally. Is there another kit that has what I need?
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    Re: Balanced but sightly green and cloudy????

    Yes and it is better ... the TF100 ... but you will not find it locally either

    I would suggest dealing with the algae and then worrying about the possible metals when the water is clear:
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    Re: Balanced but sightly green and cloudy????

    That is my plan as soon as I can find a kit locally that will give me the numbers I need to SLAM
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    Re: Balanced but sightly green and cloudy????

    You can get the TF 100 pretty quick.


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    Re: Balanced but sightly green and cloudy????

    Quote Originally Posted by Deb_B
    That is my plan as soon as I can find a kit locally that will give me the numbers I need to SLAM
    There is a 99+% chance you will not find an acceptable kit locally ... unless, you have a commercial pool supply store that may have the K-2006. Most retail stores will not have any idea what you are talking about. The key is the FAS-DPD chlorine test ... it is NOT, repeat NOT the same as the DPD chlorine test.

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    Re: Balanced but sightly green and cloudy????

    According to 2 pool stores (Pool Warehouse and Leslies) I actually have a 70 CYA and I have been chlorinating for a 30/40 CYA targeting 6, which is not good. With the hot an longer days my FC was dropping to 3 and sometimes 2. Plus I missed a day do to a family emergency. Basically I had a algae crock pot.

    CC was 0 at both stores and the rest of the numbers were about the same as my originals.

    I am following the "Turning Your Green Swamp" advice for what to do without the FAS/DPD kit which I am ordering right now in another tab.

    Lots and Lots of bleach.
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    Re: Balanced but sightly green and cloudy????

    I just wanted to say thanks to everyone who helped me. Sorry its taken so long. I've been taking care of a very ill father-in-law.

    We have a crystal clear pool again! We had to do without a test kit but the Swamp to Oasis post was EXCELLENT in guiding us!!!

    I did get my FAS/DPD kit! I love it.

    Again thanks everyone..

    FC 4.5
    CC 0
    CYA 30
    PH 7.5
    TA 150
    CH 190

    Water is clear as a bell!
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    Re: Balanced but sightly green and cloudy????

    Congratulations! Now you can enjoy your pool!
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