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    new pump

    Hey all. Ok, I replaced our old hayward pump that died a year ago with an "el cheapo" chinese unit..that I set down next to the pool last year, and it worked fine for the year. I hooked it up this season and it's just not a great pump, it's loud, doesn't seem to pump a lot of water (compared to our old Hayward)...so what I am looking for is to replace it with a decent pump, BUT I'd like to put the pump back up behind our house with the filter and heater are..which is above the water line on the pool

    I assume I'll need an inground pool pump, or something rated for above the water line? Can anyone point me to a good reliable pump that won't break the bank?

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    Re: new pump

    The Hayward Power-Flo Matrix is a medium head pump, which can prime when above the waterline, but won't have a problem with the short plumbing runs typical of an above ground pool.

    I recommend getting a two speed version.
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    Re: new pump

    Well, Jason and I were thinking along similar lines and beat me to the post. But since I had it queued up...

    +1 for getting a 2-speed. Will save $ on electric bill.

    Here is a pic of the 2-speed Hayward SP15922S Power-Flo Matrix Above-Ground Pump http://www.amazon.com/Hayward-SP1592...079219-2108543.

    Here are a couple of Pentair AG pumps you may also want to look at: http://www.pentairpool.com/pool-pro/...o-pumps-46.htm (click on the Specs tab)
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    Re: new pump

    BUT..will that pump work well on a bit longer run? it will be about 10 inches above the water line, and 20 ft away. I have 1.5 PVC piping already run to the position.
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    Re: new pump

    I don't believe the Powerflo matrix is self priming. In fact, any pump that can rotate the discharge is not self-priming. Only the Powerflo II is self priming (in the Powerflo lineup).
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    Re: new pump

    Would this one work: http://www.poolsuppliessuperstore.com/p ... Ninch.html

    the description doesn't say self priming.

    Mas - The Dynamo Manual and Specs DO INDEED say it is "self priming"
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    Re: new pump

    Dynamo is self-priming but the Powerflo Matrix is not which is what I was commenting on. The Max-Flo is also self-priming.
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    Re: new pump

    Well I went ahead and ordered the Power Flo II. Looks like a great pump.

    here's what I got: http://www.poolsupplyworld.com/Hayward- ... 2705X7.htm

    Looks like it'll pump up to 8 feet of head. That oughtta fix my issues!

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    Re: new pump

    You meant that you ordered the Max-Flo II correct? PowerFlo II is a different pump.
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    Re: new pump

    That MaxFlo II pump you linked to will be just fine.

    this is the link for the Powerflo II - http://www.poolsupplyworld.com/powerfloii.htm
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    Re: new pump

    MAS...yes you are correct, I mistyped. I ordered the Max Flo II. After reading up on all of them, the Max Flo II seemed pretty heavy duty, 8ft head, and extra large strainer basket, sounded like a perfect pump for my setup.
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