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    Pool Build (San Diego) - POOL FILLED PICS 8/31

    Hello TFP!
    I have been reading this site ever since we decided to start on our pool and began looking at designs and ideas in earnest. Contract was signed with our PB this past week and we are hoping to be swimming by Labor Day.

    We are putting in a freeform pool with the following configuration:
    Size: 18' x 32' IG Gunite, Saltwater
    Depth: 3.5 to 6.5 feet with Beach Entry
    Pool Plumbing: 2-2.5" PVC (? I need to verify the exact sizing with the PB)
    Finish: NPT MiniPebble Sand (Beach Entry), Midnight Blue (Pool/Spa) with Quartzite Coping/Waterline
    Automation: Pentair Intellitouch
    Pump: Pentair IntelliFlo + Separate 1HP pump for Waterfall
    Filter: Pentair Clean and Clear Plus Cartridge Filter
    Lights: Dual Intellibrite (12V or 120V TBD) for Pool and Single Intellibright for Spa
    Suctions: Unknown?
    Cleaner: Pentair Sandshark
    Heater: Pentair MasterTemp 400
    Solar: 80%+ Coverage, Unknown Make/Model

    Other Features: (DIY)
    Music: 6 Rock Speakers + 2 Rock Subwoofers
    Firepit: Electronic Ignition via Furnace Pilot Light + Trial/Error
    Tiki Torches: Natural Gas + Electronic Ignition (TBD Make/Model)
    Remote Control for everything: Water Proof Floating Remote to control lights, music, water and fire features

    Design by Landscape Architect


    I look forward to learning much through this process and hopefully not making any major errors during this build! Thank you for all of you that have posted pictures and advice to others on here as I doubt we would have taken this step without knowing about all the great information out there.
    16.7k (32x19) IG Freeform Stonescapes Pool, Pentair IntelliTouch w/ IntelliChlor SWG, Pentair IntelliFlo + Dual WhisperFlo, Pentair FNS60 Filter, Solar panels, Pentair SandShark Cleaner, View my build

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    Re: In Progress Pool Build (San Diego)

    Before Photo


    Firepit (already complete)
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    Re: In Progress Pool Build (San Diego)

    Pool has been dimensioned on the ground


    No more progress this week due to Holiday but hopefully permit will be pulled tomorrow.
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    Re: In Progress Pool Build (San Diego)

    Floating Pool Remote


    Tablet Interface (I write software for a living so this is my initial mockup of the tablet interface for the Pentair iLink)
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    Re: In Progress Pool Build (San Diego)

    Here are some initial renders we had done (original design by landscape contractor) - my wife and I were much happier with the revision our landscape designer (original post) put together.

    Our goal is to have everything feel very natural and organic so we are on vacation every time we go into the back yard. My wife has informed be that we will not be taking any actual vacations for years so I better get this right!

    [attachment=1:1q8xfh6y]render_003_edit.jpg[/attachment:1q8xfh6y]
    [attachment=0:1q8xfh6y]render_009_edit.jpg[/attachment:1q8xfh6y]
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    Tiki Torches

    We want to add a couple tiki torches to either side of the waterfall and found these online:

    http://www.amazon.com/Koahi-Automate...orch+automatic
    [attachment=0:2ysfcdox]tiki_torch.jpg[/attachment:2ysfcdox]

    Any experience with these or similar? We definitely want to be able to turn them on/off from the Pentair controller. It would be awesome to be able to adjust the flame level as well but I'm not seeing anything in the description that suggests that is possible.
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    Re: In Progress Pool Build (San Diego)

    Wow, beautiful view! Looks like it's going to be a great pool. Love the barstools - great position to sit and enjoy a nice cold one looking out over the view!
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    Re: In Progress Pool Build (San Diego)

    Have you considered a negative edge pool?
    With your elevated lot and view that would be a pretty cool look...

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    Re: In Progress Pool Build (San Diego)

    Quote Originally Posted by jamgolf
    Have you considered a negative edge pool?
    With your elevated lot and view that would be a pretty cool look...
    We did look into it but were talked out of it by a few contractors for a couple reasons:
    1) Cost - it would have added between $7-10k to our cost which would have put the project out of reach
    2) Kids - we were told that with lots of kids playing it can cause the water to splash out faster than the return pump can put the water back in the pool so its better for a lounge pool than a play pool.

    On the section that has the bar stools it will pretty much be water, 12" coping and then the slope will drop away. We figure that will provide the perfect amount of space to set your drink while enjoying the sunset!
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    Dig Day!

    Permit is being picked up by the PB today and dig is scheduled for tomorrow and Thursday!

    After doing some further reading I'm having some second thoughts about two items:
    - The shallow end right now starts at 3.5' and slopes to about 5' deep right after the barstool area. The deep end is 6.5' depth. -
    1) Is the deep end going to be deep enough for jumping off the waterfall into that portion of the pool (waterfall will be about 3.5' out of the water). We are not going to allow any diving -- only regular jumping/cannonballs.
    2) Some posts mention that a constant slope from shallow to deep is not very comfortable to stand on. Should we just start the shallow end a little deeper than 3.5' and keep it more level? I'll post a follow up photo with the layout per the PB.

    Thanks for any input! The PB said adjustments to depth are fine if I let him know prior to the start of the dig tomorrow.
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    Re: In Progress Pool Build (San Diego)

    [attachment=0:yyoy3ajh]pool_depths_sm.jpg[/attachment:yyoy3ajh]

    See enclosed depth layout per the PB. Any input would be very helpful!

    Thanks!
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    Re: In Progress Pool Build (San Diego)

    I just finished my pool and the depth is 3.5 to 6.5 and I regret not going deeper. We don't allow diving either, but some of the kids still hit the bottom when cannon balling or "pencil jumping" as they call it from our spa which is elevated about a foot or two from the pool level.
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    Re: In Progress Pool Build (San Diego)

    Quote Originally Posted by sdspencer
    I just finished my pool and the depth is 3.5 to 6.5 and I regret not going deeper. We don't allow diving either, but some of the kids still hit the bottom when cannon balling or "pencil jumping" as they call it from our spa which is elevated about a foot or two from the pool level.
    Do you think 7' would be deep enough? I definitely don't want the kids getting hurt (first priority) but am also concerned about the amount of slope that will be required to go super deep. I have included an updated version of the photo that shows the distances between the different depths. I think I'm ok with a pretty steep transition between the play area and the deep end as long as the pool cleaner will still work.

    [attachment=0:1hq131hj]pool_depths_sm_b.jpg[/attachment:1hq131hj]
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    Re: In Progress Pool Build (San Diego)

    I think 7 would be ok, but if I could do mine again I probably would go 7 1/2. I know there's a slope calculation you can work with to make sure it's ok, but if the slope is bearable I don't think you'll regret that 1/2 foot deeper. What I've learned from my pool after having it open for only a couple of weeks is that all kids at every age LOVE to jump, and all I worry about now is them hitting their feet at the bottom.
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    Re: In Progress Pool Build (San Diego)

    Quote Originally Posted by sdspencer
    I think 7 would be ok, but if I could do mine again I probably would go 7 1/2. I know there's a slope calculation you can work with to make sure it's ok, but if the slope is bearable I don't think you'll regret that 1/2 foot deeper. What I've learned from my pool after having it open for only a couple of weeks is that all kids at every age LOVE to jump, and all I worry about now is them hitting their feet at the bottom.
    Mine's about to be built and I've had a similar dilemma. I'm currently at 7' in the deep end but am wondering about pushing it to 8'. I have a 5' high waterfall/slide that I'm a little worried about people hitting the bottom when they jump off it (I know it's inevitable that people will).
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    Re: In Progress Pool Build (San Diego)

    Your plan is beautiful. And that view! It will be stunning.
    Pool dig progress pictures need to update with final result!
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    Re: In Progress Pool Build (San Diego)

    Quote Originally Posted by zoobie
    Your plan is beautiful. And that view! It will be stunning.
    Thanks! I look forward to seeing your build as well!

    [attachment=0:1iw2hnzf]breaking_ground.jpg[/attachment:1iw2hnzf]
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    Dig Day (Progress Photo)

    Well after the first day of digging it is starting to look like a pool! One of the things I am quickly learning is that no matter what you think the schedule is, plan for more time. Stuff happens - like random rain in the middle of July (I cannot remember the last time it rained mid summer in San Diego.) Anyhow, our dig day was pushed back another day so we started yesterday. I unfortunately was unable to be there the day of the dig and after they graded everything - the dimensioned markings the PB and I had laid out on the ground got erased. The excavator went off the drawing which wasn't exactly how we did all the radiuses which meant I came home to a spa that was about 2 feet away from where it was supposed to be and the underwater bar stool area ended up about 5 feet from the view instead of 2 feet.

    I was a little panicked last night but -- having a great PB makes all the difference in the world. A dozen donuts and some discussion between the PB and the excavator and they are redoing the forms and everything is looking right on track. If anything we will end up getting a little bit more pool (maybe another 18" of width) due to the changes made today. I am so far very impressed with how our PB is handling all questions and issues that have come up. I know it is a long road to the finish but so far we are happy and excited with what is taking shape.

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    Re: In Progress Pool Build (San Diego)

    Looking good! It rained here in Temecula too, which was very odd for this time of year.
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    Re: In Progress Pool Build (San Diego)

    Excavation is complete! The adjusted perimeter is what we were looking for and the excavation team dug down to 7.5' water depth in the deep end to give us a little extra buffer for the kids jumping off the waterfall. Overall everything feels pretty good walking around the hole although it is still difficult to gauge how large everything will be once the rebar and shotcrete goes in. The pool feels very spacious right now and it appears the sizing we went with will be perfect for our family and yard size.

    Here is the view from the deck of the finished excavation:
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