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    UPDATED: New Pool Build in Granbury Texas

    Update:
    Electricians are done. Tile and coping this week with some stone work and the sheer descents hopefully. And a conundrum on how to upgrade my already installed Easytouch to intellitouch.


    Howdy,

    I've been lurking for quite a long time and I'm about to pull the trigger on a pool build. My lakehouse is not really all that fun when the lake is so low I can't use the boat or jump off the dock safely. So It's time to add a pool. I wanted first to submit the details as I have them to the collective wisdom/criticism of TFP.

    General Specifications
    Style - Rectangular

    Size 12.5'x~26'
    Pool Square Footage Approximately 336 Square Feet
    Perimeter - 78'
    Depth 3 x 4' x 3 '
    Acid Start-Up

    Structural Specifications
    Excavation - Bobcat Dig
    Floor/Wall Steel Schedule - #3 10 OC, 5 x 10 OC in stress areas
    Bond Beam Steel Schedule - #4 5 x 10 OC
    Deck/Pool Steel Schedule - #3 Reinforcing Bar Deck Dowels 24 O.C.
    Pool Structure - 8000 PSI Gunite
    Walls - 8 Minimum (10-12" around skimmer), Floor - 8 Minimum (10-12" around drains), Bond Beam - 13" Minimum 36" tall
    2 Bubblers in Tanning Ledge, 4 Pentair Laminar Color Jets along north side of pool.
    Retaining wall breakout and sidewalk breakout
    Screened soil for yard repair.
    Sandstone Retaining Wall Build around pool shell and extended patio. New steps included.
    Stable soil for retaining wall backfill.

    Pool Equipment
    Filter 48 Sq. Ft Hayward DE Style Filter & Separation Tank
    System Pump 1 1/2 HP Hayward TriStar
    Water Feature Pump ??? TBD
    Control - mechanical Timer
    Cleaner Polaris 280 (w/ Booster Pump Hayward 6060)
    Erosion Type Chlorinator - Rainbow 320 In-line Automatic
    Pool Lighting - 1 Pentair Intellibrite 5g Color LED Pool Lights, 3 Pentair GloBrite Lights
    Main Drains - 2 VGB Compliant Anti-Entrapment
    Skimmers - 2 Hayward SkimMaster
    Returns - 4 Directional in Pool

    Plumbing Specifications
    Pipe - All 2 Schedule 40 (except as designated below)
    3 Schedule 40 Manifold at Equipment Pad
    1 1/2" thru-shell fittings
    Dedicated return lines to equipment
    Dedicated laminar and bubbler lines to equipment
    Separate Skimmer Lines and Main Drain Lines to Equipment
    Freeze Guard, Skimmer Protection, Never Lube Valves, Stub out for Fill Line.

    Pool Coping and Tile
    Tennessee Sandstone Coping
    Waterline Tile ??TBD??
    Plaster ??TBD?? Heavily leaning towards to Diamondbrite

    Pool Decking and Drainage
    Pool Decking - 390 Sq. Ft of 4 minimum poured concrete stamped and colored and sealed. Including Sidewalk to boat dock.
    Concrete Reinforcement - #3 Reinforcing Bars tied on 18 Centers
    Deck-O-Seal between Pool Coping and Decking
    Gutter Drain Yes, Tied into Deck Drains
    Deck drains to yard.

    Utilities Included
    Pool Electrical Hook Ups - All Footage Included
    Electrical Sub-panel with breakers with 2 mechanical timers (Later upgrade to Pentair IntelliTouch planned)
    Layout on pad of equipment to facilitate adding Pentair Intellichem and chemical tanks as a later upgrade next summer.

    Maintenance Equipment
    Brush, Leaf Net, Telescopic Pole, Test Kit, Vacuum Head, Hose
    Start-up Chemicals Included

    Site Clean Ups
    Gunite Clean Up
    Final Clean Up

    Warranties
    Lifetime Gunnite Structural Warranty
    2 year severe structural failure warranty
    2 year plumbing warranty
    1 year plaster from delamination warranty
    3 year Polaris cleaner and booster pump unconditional warranty
    Equipment Warranties by Manufacturers

    Extra Items Included in Bid
    GFCI Protected Electrical Outlet and Light at Equipment Pad
    Volleyball and Umbrella Anchors
    Attached Images Attached Images
    IG 8,000gal 12.5'x28', 3HP Intelliflo VS Pump, DE FNS 60sf filter, Easytouch 8p, Screenlogic 2, Rainbow Automatic Chlorine Feeder, Dolphin Supreme M4 Robot, 3x columns w/sheer descents, Color Cascade Bubbler in ledge, Intellibrite 5G, Globrite LED on ledge, 3x Pentair Landscape Lights, 4x Kichler 15745 for patio stairs, 6 returns, 2 skimmers, white plaster w/meta-max and start-up tec, Cool-Deck, concrete coping, Oklahoma sandstone retaining wall

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    Re: New Pool Build in Granbury Texas

    This photo isn't very helpful beyond giving you a sense of what type of lake bulkhead situation I'm building with. Sadly that lake is 7' lower now. I hate droughts.
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    IG 8,000gal 12.5'x28', 3HP Intelliflo VS Pump, DE FNS 60sf filter, Easytouch 8p, Screenlogic 2, Rainbow Automatic Chlorine Feeder, Dolphin Supreme M4 Robot, 3x columns w/sheer descents, Color Cascade Bubbler in ledge, Intellibrite 5G, Globrite LED on ledge, 3x Pentair Landscape Lights, 4x Kichler 15745 for patio stairs, 6 returns, 2 skimmers, white plaster w/meta-max and start-up tec, Cool-Deck, concrete coping, Oklahoma sandstone retaining wall

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    Re: New Pool Build in Granbury Texas

    It looks like that's going to be very nice pool ! Somebody else will chime in on the spec's I'm sure.

    Keep us posted with lots of pic's on the build.


    Jeff
    24'x54" AG Morada RTR (by wilbar) 13'500 gal. Hayward Powerflo Matrix 1hp 2 speed. Hayward Perflex EC65 DE filter.

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    Re: New Pool Build in Granbury Texas

    Question for y'all. I'm considering adding a slide at one end of the pool. I dig the slides surfaced with a glass tile mosaic. My better half questions the comfort of sliding down a mosaic. I think she plans on enjoying it more than our son.

    How does that surface slide? Is it relatively smooth? Rough? All input is appreciated.

    Something like this



    IG 8,000gal 12.5'x28', 3HP Intelliflo VS Pump, DE FNS 60sf filter, Easytouch 8p, Screenlogic 2, Rainbow Automatic Chlorine Feeder, Dolphin Supreme M4 Robot, 3x columns w/sheer descents, Color Cascade Bubbler in ledge, Intellibrite 5G, Globrite LED on ledge, 3x Pentair Landscape Lights, 4x Kichler 15745 for patio stairs, 6 returns, 2 skimmers, white plaster w/meta-max and start-up tec, Cool-Deck, concrete coping, Oklahoma sandstone retaining wall

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    Re: New Pool Build in Granbury Texas

    Slurpee98:

    Looks like you will have a really nice pool! Looking at your specs, I have only one question: Is your System Pump (Haywood TriStar) a single-speed or a 2-speed? If it is a single-speed, I would opt for a 2-speed. The cost differential for a comparable 2-speed will be minimal, but it will give you the benefit of ongoing electricity savings.

    As for the slide, I have never slid down a mosaic slide. But it sure looks cool!
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    Re: New Pool Build in Granbury Texas

    It's three speed I think, but I'm seriously considering an Intellipro vs instead.


    IG 8,000gal 12.5'x28', 3HP Intelliflo VS Pump, DE FNS 60sf filter, Easytouch 8p, Screenlogic 2, Rainbow Automatic Chlorine Feeder, Dolphin Supreme M4 Robot, 3x columns w/sheer descents, Color Cascade Bubbler in ledge, Intellibrite 5G, Globrite LED on ledge, 3x Pentair Landscape Lights, 4x Kichler 15745 for patio stairs, 6 returns, 2 skimmers, white plaster w/meta-max and start-up tec, Cool-Deck, concrete coping, Oklahoma sandstone retaining wall

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    Re: New Pool Build in Granbury Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Slurpee98
    It's three speed I think, but I'm seriously considering an Intellipro vs instead.
    I haven't yet heard of a 3-speed, but manufacturers are coming out with new pumps all the time. Just make sure it is not a single-speed. I would hate to see you put in that fine pool and saddle it with a single-speed when for less than $100 more you could have had a comparable 2-speed with all the energy savings it offers. If you are like me and decide to keep the pool operational year-round, you will be really glad you got the 2-speed when the freeze guard kicks in and that pump runs for several hours on those days/nights when temps approach freezing. If you have lived in North Texas long enough, you know we get more of that than most people realize.

    Generally speaking (from a cost/benefit perspective), if your electric rate is $0.20 per kWh or less, a 2-speed is the more cost-effective option over a variable speed.
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    A good test kit is an investment, not an expense.

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    Re: New Pool Build in Granbury Texas

    Yup. I agree. If it helps I've lived here all my life and design motors among other things for a living? I'm all for VS motors. I'm just playing nice with my Hayward friendly pool builder. I'll use that Tristar later for something else maybe when I convert to pentair in a year or so.


    IG 8,000gal 12.5'x28', 3HP Intelliflo VS Pump, DE FNS 60sf filter, Easytouch 8p, Screenlogic 2, Rainbow Automatic Chlorine Feeder, Dolphin Supreme M4 Robot, 3x columns w/sheer descents, Color Cascade Bubbler in ledge, Intellibrite 5G, Globrite LED on ledge, 3x Pentair Landscape Lights, 4x Kichler 15745 for patio stairs, 6 returns, 2 skimmers, white plaster w/meta-max and start-up tec, Cool-Deck, concrete coping, Oklahoma sandstone retaining wall

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    Re: New Pool Build in Granbury Texas

    Hey there! We have a lake house on Granbury as well! We're in Harbor Lakes (and it looks like you might be too).
    Some Comments:
    • It looks like the equipment pad might be against your master bedroom wall -- If your bed is also along this wall, then you might consider pushing the pad closer to the front of the house as the sound/vibration can disturb light sleepers[/*:m:1dc3qsc0]
    • Don't do the manual timers -- You'll regret it later. When we bought our house it originally had manual timers and it was a total headache. Save labor cost and just do it now. I replaced ours with the Jandy iAquaLink system (bought the whole kit online for inexpensive and then had Granbury Custom Pools install it) and it's been so much better -- Now I can monitor the pool remotely and and it's much easier to train family/friends how to use it when they visit than the manual timer)[/*:m:1dc3qsc0]
    Main Pool: Cl Rectangular Pool/Spa Combo (same height) // Jandy RS8 Controller w/iAquaLink // Jandy VS Flow Pro Pump + Booster // Jandy Heater // Jandy DE Filter // 9,000 Gallons
    Vacation Pool: NaCl Rectangular Pool/Spa Combo (elevated spa) // Jandy RS4 Controller w/iAquaLink // Jandy Stealth Pump (Converted to 2hp 2-Speed) + Booster // Jandy Heater // Jany DE Filter // 9,000 Gallons

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    Re: New Pool Build in Granbury Texas

    Looks like a great design. I have no personal experience of a mosaic slide but can pass on what my PB told me as I looked at it as an option. He reckoned it was quicker than a regular gunite/epoxy slide and was more slick. He did say however that it is a real pain to install the tiles and it needs to be done meticulously in order for there to be no edges from the tiles sticking up to get caught on.

    We haven't made a final decision yet but I think we'll probably end up with gunite/epoxy as I'm guessing the tile will add to the cost.
    38'x24' freeform IG gunite, 26k gallons, 3.5' - 7'
    8t Moss rock waterfall with gunite slide
    SWCG, 2 x 2.7hp Hayward Tristar pumps, booster pump, 425 sqft cartridge, 400,000 BTU heater, Polaris Black Max 280, ProLogic PS8 & Aquapod

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    Re: New Pool Build in Granbury Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by jragan
    Hey there! We have a lake house on Granbury as well! We're in Harbor Lakes (and it looks like you might be too).
    Some Comments:
    • It looks like the equipment pad might be against your master bedroom wall -- If your bed is also along this wall, then you might consider pushing the pad closer to the front of the house as the sound/vibration can disturb light sleepers[/*:m:1wnkrx2k]
    • Don't do the manual timers -- You'll regret it later. When we bought our house it originally had manual timers and it was a total headache. Save labor cost and just do it now. I replaced ours with the Jandy iAquaLink system (bought the whole kit online for inexpensive and then had Granbury Custom Pools install it) and it's been so much better -- Now I can monitor the pool remotely and and it's much easier to train family/friends how to use it when they visit than the manual timer)[/*:m:1wnkrx2k]
    Yup, Harbor Lakes. Good guess. I can put that pad anywhere really. It's definitely going to be a big decision. I don't want it on the side of my house with the decent side yard at first take because it'll get in the way of my son's play area. But it would make for shorter pipe runs and some easier access and put it outside the kitchen rather than my bedroom. The other downside is that I'd have to run 220V and a water main over there. They're already on the bedroom side of the house though.

    Yeah, the mechanical timers are a cheap solution for while I learn to take care of the pool. The plan is to put in the Pentair Intellitouch system later.

    The HOA took so long making changes to the easement variance warranty for me to sign that the pool probably won't be done until October. At this point I'm thinking of delaying the whole thing till the spring. Sigh... best laid plans.
    IG 8,000gal 12.5'x28', 3HP Intelliflo VS Pump, DE FNS 60sf filter, Easytouch 8p, Screenlogic 2, Rainbow Automatic Chlorine Feeder, Dolphin Supreme M4 Robot, 3x columns w/sheer descents, Color Cascade Bubbler in ledge, Intellibrite 5G, Globrite LED on ledge, 3x Pentair Landscape Lights, 4x Kichler 15745 for patio stairs, 6 returns, 2 skimmers, white plaster w/meta-max and start-up tec, Cool-Deck, concrete coping, Oklahoma sandstone retaining wall

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    Re: New Pool Build in Granbury Texas

    So I've found a builder and signed a contract. Details to be posted soon. I'm so excited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slurpee98 View Post
    So I've found a builder and signed a contract. Details to be posted soon. I'm so excited.
    Congrats!! Are you going ahead with the slide?
    38'x24' freeform IG gunite, 26k gallons, 3.5' - 7'
    8t Moss rock waterfall with gunite slide
    SWCG, 2 x 2.7hp Hayward Tristar pumps, booster pump, 425 sqft cartridge, 400,000 BTU heater, Polaris Black Max 280, ProLogic PS8 & Aquapod

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    Re: New Pool Build in Granbury Texas

    Here are some photos of the nearly final design. The CFO decided she liked the waterfalls in the PB's demo pool at his office so three of those got added along the south side of the pool. Anyways, comments and criticisms more than welcome. Personally I'm thinking of making that tanning ledge wider. It seems like a glorified step now. My 2 year old needs play space without sacrificing the eventual teenagers play space. What a balancing act. I wish I had more yard.

    Let's see - Details.

    Dimensions
    12.5' x 26' with a depth of 3.5' x 4.5' x 3.5'. I think the length and width will grow 6-9" once we get to excavating on site. It should end up close to 78 perimeter feet.

    Interior Finish
    White Plater with MetaMax and Start-Up Tec and some Teal Quartz crystals thrown in for a little color accent. We though hard about Durazzo or PebbleTec, but in the end decided to go with a simple finish the first time while our son is growing up. When it's due for resurfacing we'll probably grab something fancier. The CFO picked a nice turquoise smooth waterline tile. We'll put some pieces of that on the steps and benches to accent their location.

    Decking
    Approximately 460 square feet of decking is being poured. They will remove and resurface the existing patio concrete overlay (it's delaminating) and do a uniform textured kool deck with some accent colors flaked in to match the house and such.
    #3 steel reinforcing on 18" centers. The new backfill behind the new retaining wall under the newly poured deck will be compacted fill and base. 4" deck drains as needed to tie into roof gutters and empty to lake.

    Coping
    1/4" Poly void expansion joint installed behind coping & caulk sealed with connectino grade self-levleing liquid caulk. Coping will be colored precast (looks a bit like travertine) and will be used for the retaining wall cap as well. Stone veneer to match house to be used on retaining wall and the three 18" x 18" x 18" fountains.

    Electrical & Equipment
    Pre-cast equipment pad on west side of house with stone wall for sound deflection from neighbor's porch.
    Easy Touch 8P
    1x Intellibrite 5G (north wall)
    1x Colorcascade bubbler (in shelf)
    Intelliflow V.S.
    M4 Robotic Cleaner
    Junction box with outlets added near extended patio
    Step lights on stairs in retaining wall
    FNS DE 60sq.ft.
    Rainbow In-Line Chlorine Feeder

    Plumbing
    Schedule 40 PVC with separate 2" suction lines
    4 returns
    2 main drains with Hydrostat
    Up-Sized manifold to balance the 3 sheer decents

    Excavation
    Remove the old retaining wall, sidewalk, and steps.
    ASTM Grade 40 Steel
    Entire shell will be #4 on 8" centers.
    Gunnite 12" thick. Pool to be dug an extra 12" deep and an extra 18" gunnite shot. Sounds like overkill I know, but I'm very close to the lake bulkhead and we wanted a very solid footing for the pool.
    Deck Dowels will be #3 on 30" centers.

    Special Features
    Tan Ledge ~8" deep
    Umbrella sleeves in sheer decent columns
    Gunite the new retaining wall 6-8" thick with #3 steel reinforcement 8" on center on stone veneer to match house.
    2x submerged benches in the north-east and south-east corners of pool.

    This shot shows the pool before we added some changes to the stairs and poured concrete patio where the planter was on the right, but it gets the idea across.


    Here's the changes to the stairs.


    Here's the changes to the poured patio instead of planter.



    The overall 2D pool drawing is one iteration old, but the dimensions are pretty much the same.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cbink View Post
    Congrats!! Are you going ahead with the slide?
    Nope. I just don't have enough pool to do it. I had to make peace with the fact that if I did too much it'd all be too cramped to enjoy. So I'm going for simpler.

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    Re: New Pool Build in Granbury Texas

    Looks like fun

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    Re: New Pool Build in Granbury Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by BoDarville View Post
    Slurpee98:

    Looks like you will have a really nice pool! Looking at your specs, I have only one question: Is your System Pump (Haywood TriStar) a single-speed or a 2-speed? If it is a single-speed, I would opt for a 2-speed. The cost differential for a comparable 2-speed will be minimal, but it will give you the benefit of ongoing electricity savings.

    As for the slide, I have never slid down a mosaic slide. But it sure looks cool!
    The Hayward Tristar is a VS pump I believe.
    20X36 IG vinyl (18,000 gal), 3 sheer descents, Max-Flo 1.5hp VS 2300, Aquarite T15 SWG, C3030 filter, 250,000 BTU heater, Sharkvac XL (Hayward equip)

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    Re: New Pool Build in Granbury Texas

    Congrats on getting started. You have a beautiful setting to work with. Looking forward to watching it unfold.
    Swimming!: 19x32 IG rectangular pool, 22,500 gallons; 3' - 6.5'; open spa w/ 6 jets; raised wall w/ 1 sheer descent and 2 minijets, 2 color-changing LED pool lights, 1 spa light; Jandy 2 1/2 HP 2 speed Pump, Jandy cartridge filter (320 SQFT), Diamondbrite Cool Blue

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    Re: New Pool Build in Granbury Texas

    Day 1 of the pool build - Excavation

    http://youtu.be/xgD3c-5rNKI

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    Re: New Pool Build in Granbury Texas

    Congrats. Looks like it will be quite the place to be.

    I like the GoPro idea.
    IG gunite/plaster pool/spa Started 1/17/14, Plastered 5/16/14
    Size: 12'-21'x39' free form, depth ranging from 4' to 7, attached 6 person spa with spillover.
    Equipment: Whisperflo 2hp pump, Pentair 30" sand filter, Pentair Mastertemp 400k BTU heater, 1hp Whisperflo for waterfalls, and a blower for spa floor

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    Re: New Pool Build in Granbury Texas

    Wow - had no idea those GoPros could do time lapse. That's really cool. I'm going to have to get one to capture my build!! Great idea.

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