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Thread: Concrete Overlay vs SunDek

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    Concrete Overlay vs SunDek

    We have an existing pool deck that is exposed aggregate. This pool deck butts up against a wooden deck and that butts up next to our concrete patio. Anyway we are looking to have the wood deck ripped out and have concrete poured then go over the aggregate, new pour and existing concrete with something consistent. Our options are concrete stamped overlay or some type of spray like SunDek.

    I'd like peoples opinions one those who have done either with their pool deck and patio or have some feedback they'd like to pass along. I'm aware that the spray option is likely less expensive which is important but not the entire decision maker.

    We have young kids and imagine having kids over all the time so durability is important, i'm aware of some certain things for each of the products such as a spray like SunDek will be much cooler to the feet than a concrete overlay. Any other experiences/observations?

    Thanks
    11K SWG Freeform IG pool w/ spa; Bluehaven 550 (hayward mfg) Cartridge Filter; Century Centurion 2HP Pump on pool; Hayward 400H heater; Polaris PB4-60 Pump on cleaner; Hayward Super II Pump on waterfall, Hayward TurboCell GLX-Cell-5; AquaLogic PS8, Taylor 2006k
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    Re: Concrete Overlay vs SunDek

    Concrete Overlays , spray , stamp , ect. is what i have done in my business since 2002. So i can lend some insight and also a professional opinion if needed.

    In the short tho:

    Both materials are essentially the same thing. Both a "portland" based material, both have acrylics/resins for movement and bonding. Both will require re-sealing at certain times. Both have unlimited colors to choose from. The big difference between the two are basically the look you can achieve and also of course the cost of each. Stamps being the most expensive. I personally love the look of a stamped overlay done correctly as opposed to just a "spray" pattern. However the durability is fine with both but you mention having a lot of kids running around.... the stamp pattern is MUCH more slippery then the Spray. The safety of your kids and the neighbors kids, ect usually come into play when thinking about which direction to go.

    As far as a contractor/ MAnufacturer i can help you with that as well. Obviously I have nothing in this cause im from PA but i have used alot of different materials over the year and can at least help you locate the proper things you will need and the proper people you nned to speak with .

    Hope this starts helping a little bit.

    23k Gallon, IG, Vinyl, Hayward Perflex 65A DE Filter, Heat Pump, In-Line Chlorinator, Pool Installed 2010 (however i just bought the house with this pool 1 month ago)

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    Re: Concrete Overlay vs SunDek

    da-waterboy thanks for the info much appreciated. I've heard the spray products tend to be cooler than the concrete overlays. If they are essentially the same thing how is it possible the "sprays" are cooler?

    Thanks
    11K SWG Freeform IG pool w/ spa; Bluehaven 550 (hayward mfg) Cartridge Filter; Century Centurion 2HP Pump on pool; Hayward 400H heater; Polaris PB4-60 Pump on cleaner; Hayward Super II Pump on waterfall, Hayward TurboCell GLX-Cell-5; AquaLogic PS8, Taylor 2006k
    Pool Chlorinator @ 80%; Filter from 11AM-6PM, Cleaner from 11AM-2PM
    Location: Houston, TX ( /\ overkill of information?)

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    Re: Concrete Overlay vs SunDek

    There are a few reasons, but the two easiest to explain are color and also the texture.

    most stamps need a dark "antiquing" agent to make them look real. So they end up a darker color palette then most sprays.

    also the spray has a "popcorn" type texture and you are only basically touching the high spots of the texture instead of 80 percent of the full texture of stamp. So if your foot is only in contact with 40 percent of a hot material instead of 80+ percent it tends to feel alot cooler then the later.
    23k Gallon, IG, Vinyl, Hayward Perflex 65A DE Filter, Heat Pump, In-Line Chlorinator, Pool Installed 2010 (however i just bought the house with this pool 1 month ago)

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    Re: Concrete Overlay vs SunDek

    Our house already had a SunDek finish applied on the pool deck when we bought it. We've had to have the deck punched through a number of times for plumbing repairs and the SunDek finish has been able to be matched perfectly each time. Also stays pretty cool and it looks great. The texture does catch a lot of dirt, however, so once-a-year pressure washing is a must. Overall, I'm a fan.
    Main Pool: Cl Rectangular Pool/Spa Combo (same height) // Jandy RS8 Controller w/iAquaLink // Jandy VS Flow Pro Pump + Booster // Jandy Heater // Jandy DE Filter // 9,000 Gallons
    Vacation Pool: NaCl Rectangular Pool/Spa Combo (elevated spa) // Jandy RS4 Controller w/iAquaLink // Jandy Stealth Pump (Converted to 2hp 2-Speed) + Booster // Jandy Heater // Jany DE Filter // 9,000 Gallons

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    Re: Concrete Overlay vs SunDek

    jragan, thanks for the feedback. I think i'm starting to lean that way (SunDek)
    11K SWG Freeform IG pool w/ spa; Bluehaven 550 (hayward mfg) Cartridge Filter; Century Centurion 2HP Pump on pool; Hayward 400H heater; Polaris PB4-60 Pump on cleaner; Hayward Super II Pump on waterfall, Hayward TurboCell GLX-Cell-5; AquaLogic PS8, Taylor 2006k
    Pool Chlorinator @ 80%; Filter from 11AM-6PM, Cleaner from 11AM-2PM
    Location: Houston, TX ( /\ overkill of information?)

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