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    Newbie trying to do it right

    Hey everyone my name is Joe and I'm new to the forum, I've read pool school and after draining, power washing and refilling our pool twice in two years I want to learn how to properly maintain it to avoid this problem again. I've got the Taylor K-2006 kit and did a few tests, the water is sparkling blue fresh off the tap and id like to keep it that way. I've added about 12L of 4.25% GV bleach from walmart after the test to get the FC up (I also picked up some baking soda and borax at walmart). Im also going to go to the pool store tomorrow to pick up some stabilizer to get the CYA up as well. Looks like i will also need some acid to get pH down. Hopefully I did the tests the right way. pool is at 18 C (64.4 F) which is too cold for me lol, I can't get the gas heater to fire but a friend of mine will help me get it going next Saturday hopefully. I hope im off to a good start, any adivce or guidance will be greatly appreciated.

    FC:0
    pH:8.0
    CYA:0
    TA:110 ppm
    CH:175 ppm

    Pool Setup: 22,718 Gal (86,000 L) IG (in ground) plaster/pebble - Hayward 3.14 sq ft Sand Filter 63 gpm flow rate - Hayward Super Pump 120v 1hp - Hayward comfortzone CPS-1320 NG (natural gas) heater 232,000 btu - Toronto, Ontario, Canada

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    Re: Newbie trying to do it right

    Welcome to tfp, yoshirocks702

    Yep get that ph down using Muriatic Acid and get some cya in there. See: http://www.troublefreepool.com/pool-...mmended_levels

    At some point you will want to raise CH, but it is not something you need to do right now.
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    Re: Newbie trying to do it right

    Wow 4.25% bleach. That could turn into a lot of carrying a lot of jugs. First thing I want to share with you is how to compare different size and concentrations of bleach/chlorine with each other.

    Size of bottle(in ounces) X strength (percentage) Then the cost per bottle in cents divided by previous figure

    (example) I can buy a case of 2 from walmart for $6.47 (3.24 each) they are 128 ounces and 10%

    128(oz) X .10 (10%) = 12.8

    324(cents) / 12.8 = 25.31 per oz ...the lower per oz the better deal.

    My best deal so far is gallons 12.5% liquid chlorine from a pool store @ 21.13 per oz. Have not found any great deals on bleach yet.
    12500 gallons, 24 foot round above ground
    Hayward Sand filter, Pentair OptiFlo 1HP 2-Speed pump

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    Re: Newbie trying to do it right

    Quote Originally Posted by yoshirocks702
    after draining, power washing and refilling our pool twice in two years
    What problems were you having requiring the draining?
    12500 gallons, 24 foot round above ground
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    Re: Newbie trying to do it right

    I also notice you are using (or intend to use) borax. Great idea, but I wouldn't worry about it until you have your other chemicals in balance. Be sure to have lots of muriatic acid to bring the PH back down after you add the borax.
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    Re: Newbie trying to do it right

    thanks for all the replies! this is how the pool looked last Sunday



    I guess it could've been cleaned out with chemicals and stuff but since im not that good with the chemicals yet i thought it would be easier to drain, power wash the walls and floor and refill with fresh water. I bought the borax and baking soda so i got the BBB chemicals to use when i need them, so now i have to focus on getting the water balanced I took a FC reading this morning from the bleach i put in last night and got

    FC: 12ppm

    and thanks to scott with that formula. I got walmart GV stuff is
    198 cents / (3.6 liters x 0.0425) = 1294.11 cents per liter

    crappy tire has purox ($5.69) and hth (4.99) at 10.5% so
    569 cents / (5 liters x 0.1025) = 1110.24 cents per liter (purox)
    499 cents / (5 liters x 0.1025) = 973.65 cents per liter (hth)

    found another pool store that seems to have an unbeatable deal 100 liters of 12% for 48.99$

    4899 cents / (100 liters x 0.12) = 408.3 cents per liter

    hopefully i got the cost calculations right in metric lol

    edit: I forgot i have a tub of hth chlorine granuals, should i use these to keep FC levels up and also bring CYA up instead of buying stabilizer?
    Pool Setup: 22,718 Gal (86,000 L) IG (in ground) plaster/pebble - Hayward 3.14 sq ft Sand Filter 63 gpm flow rate - Hayward Super Pump 120v 1hp - Hayward comfortzone CPS-1320 NG (natural gas) heater 232,000 btu - Toronto, Ontario, Canada

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    Re: Newbie trying to do it right

    Quote Originally Posted by yoshirocks702

    found another pool store that seems to have an unbeatable deal 100 liters of 12% for 48.99$

    4899 cents / (100 liters x 0.12) = 408.3 cents per liter

    hopefully i got the cost calculations right in metric lol
    Yeah I'm not sure about that last one that seems crazy low. 12% has a shorter shelf life before it starts loosing strength from age, so might be too much for you, if its not already too old. I really don't know what to say about this last one.
    12500 gallons, 24 foot round above ground
    Hayward Sand filter, Pentair OptiFlo 1HP 2-Speed pump

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    Re: Newbie trying to do it right

    I stopped by there today at lunch the deal was legit, it's a bulk type of sale so you bring in your container and they fill it in any multiple of 10 liters up to 100 liters, at least this way you don't have to worry about shelf life just get 10 liters at a time, although I wonder how often they freshen up their stock. I think I'll stick to this as its the cheapest way to get liquid chlorine and the place is only about 15 min from my house. If i did this right 100 liters is 3381.4 oz so it's

    4899 cents / (3381 oz) x 0.12 = 12.07 cents / oz

    Thanks for all the replies, this site is the best! btw I also picked up some acid and stabilizer so hopefully ill try and get the pool balanced tonight.
    Pool Setup: 22,718 Gal (86,000 L) IG (in ground) plaster/pebble - Hayward 3.14 sq ft Sand Filter 63 gpm flow rate - Hayward Super Pump 120v 1hp - Hayward comfortzone CPS-1320 NG (natural gas) heater 232,000 btu - Toronto, Ontario, Canada

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