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    considering hard plumbing my system

    I am considering getting rid of the hoses and hard plumb my filter to the pool. Is the difficult to do?
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    Re: considering hard plumbing my system

    Not if you are mildly handy.
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    Re: considering hard plumbing my system

    Is it also possible to hard plumb the backflush so that I don't have to keep buying the hose every year?
    24 ft. round ABG-vinyl-15200 gallon
    Sand Filter w/1 1/2 HP pump
    Installed May 2011
    Taylor K-2006 test kit
    BBB method

    http://www.poolcalculator.com/
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    Re: considering hard plumbing my system

    Quote Originally Posted by Vette
    Not if you are mildly handy.
    If you are less than mildly handy such as myself you can always cut multiple times. I hard plumbed in a few hours, be sure to use pvc schedule 40 L fittings instead of DWV (drain waste, curved elbows). I used the DWV curved fittings and later found out they're not rated as sched 40, no problems yet. But eventually I will be re plumbing.

    I recently thought about plumbing my waste pipe too, but trenching out would be a lot of work in my situation. I've had to blow off waste water 3 times so far this year. Most years it's around 5/year. Had I known I would want to trench a waste line out when we were trenching the gas line and electrical I would have definitely done it then. It could still be done now, but renting the trencher and all the work involved wouldn't pay off unless I look at it over 10+ years. I've used 2 PVC pipes to connect at the end of my backwash hose and go under the fence so it won't kink and explode. I unscrew these 2 pipes and put away when not in use.


    This is what I used:


    This is what should be used:



    Also -- instead of a PVC ball valve, use one that's made for a pool. Mine already feels like it will crack when I turn the knob, so I've been using a tennis ball in the skimmer to block it instead of closing the valve.

    Don't use this:


    Use this:
    Aaron
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    Re: considering hard plumbing my system

    Consider using flexible PVC pipe as well. I just did so and the job was super easy. Got a good price and fast delivery from flexiblepvc.net
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    Installed in 2006? (just a guess, pool came with house I purchased in June 2012)

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    Re: considering hard plumbing my system

    @Speedo.....where can I get a valve like the one you recommended?
    24 ft. round ABG-vinyl-15200 gallon
    Sand Filter w/1 1/2 HP pump
    Installed May 2011
    Taylor K-2006 test kit
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    Re: considering hard plumbing my system

    Instead of buying those cheap back wash hoses go to a Granger's and buy a trash pump hose with the fittings you need. They cost the same and last for years.
    21' Leslies Beachland Ag Pool, 10,000 gallons, professionally installed (best money I ever spent) Hayward 16" sand filter w/Pentair two speed pump Fafco 4x20 solar heater,Aqua Trol RJ. Borates added. Hard plumbed.

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    considering hard plumbing my system

    That valve is called a diverter valve amazon link and can be found at just about any pool supply store. Another great thing about them is they come in multiport configurations.

    I have found that pvc unions HomeDepot link can be very handy.

    The first time I plumbed my AG I tried to make it look pretty, and didnt allow for drainage in the winter months. The first year I was able to keep the lines clear enough they didnt crack, the second year I wasnt so lucky( Im still picking pieces of pvc out of the yard.)
    27' AG, sand filter, Pentair 340203 Two-Speed 3/4-Horsepower, hard plumbed

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    Re: considering hard plumbing my system

    Those valves with the red handles, I have several of them and many have a very small crack in them, pretty disappointed in them.
    They may turn out to be trivial and not compromise performance, but they developed within the first season of use.
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    Re: considering hard plumbing my system

    Sorry I hadn't checked this thread in a few days. The diverter valve is from PoolSupplyWorld. As others have said, most places carry them. I believe the price is around $45.
    Aaron
    [ Vogue Vectra 24' AG | Hard plumb: Hayward Power-Flo Matrix 1HP 2-speed, 27" sand filter & Pentair MiniMax 100 NG | Taylor K-2006 | Central IL ]
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    Re: considering hard plumbing my system

    Quote Originally Posted by snooptodd
    I have found that pvc unions HomeDepot link can be very handy.
    Oops! Left that out, definitely use unions!
    Aaron
    [ Vogue Vectra 24' AG | Hard plumb: Hayward Power-Flo Matrix 1HP 2-speed, 27" sand filter & Pentair MiniMax 100 NG | Taylor K-2006 | Central IL ]
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    Re: considering hard plumbing my system

    just finished plumbing pool with pvc. the connections at the pool-wall have small drips. would using pipe tape or plumbers putty work to stop the drips?
    thank you

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    Re: considering hard plumbing my system

    Don't use the putty. Use thread sealant or tape. I like the sealant.


    Jeff
    24'x54" AG Morada RTR (by wilbar) 13'500 gal. Hayward Powerflo Matrix 1hp 2 speed. Hayward Perflex EC65 DE filter.

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