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    Just switched to BBB - Now I want to automate

    I recently switched to the BBB method and so far so good. I just began researching automatic liquid chlorinators and came across the liquidator. I saw some mention of problems with leaves but wasn't sure what or how these would effect its use. I have a huge oak tree which drops leaves and a tremendous amount of pollen pods in March / April and then acorns in October. It is a pain to deal with but it does provide constant shade during the hot Texas summers.

    Just based on this, is the liquidator an option or should I look into something else. I'm not looking to spend a ton of money at the moment. Thanks!
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    Re: Just switched to BBB - Now I want to automate

    Leaves in the pool has no affect on the liquidator.
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    Re: Just switched to BBB - Now I want to automate

    The problem with the LQ (liquidator) and leaves, is that when the skimmer fills with leaves, it increases the suction head and that in turn increases the flow out of the LQ causing it to dump a lot of bleach in the pool. If your suction head doesn't rise much when the skimmer fills with leaves then that won't be a problem for you.
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    Sorry, Dave and Dave,

    Once again, I stepped outside my pay grade. I should've known that but didn't.
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    Re: Just switched to BBB - Now I want to automate

    Quote Originally Posted by Bama Rambler
    The problem with the LQ (liquidator) and leaves, is that when the skimmer fills with leaves, it increases the suction head and that in turn increases the flow out of the LQ causing it to dump a lot of bleach in the pool. If your suction head doesn't rise much when the skimmer fills with leaves then that won't be a problem for you.
    What do you mean by suction head?
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    The amount of suction created by the pump when moving water through the suction (skimmer/main drain) side of the system. As the suction gets blocked the suction head (negative pressure) goes up and the water flow goes down.
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    Re: Just switched to BBB - Now I want to automate

    Bama,

    I've been thinking of an LQ or a stenner pump, just to so I understand correctly, any time suction goes down the LQ delivers more chlorine? My normal pressure is 17 psi, when I attach a vacuum hose my pressure drops to 10 psi because of reduced water flow. So during vacuuming the LQ would deliver more chlorine than during normal filter operation. If that's the case then I think the stenner on a separate sync'd timer is the way I want to go.
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    Dan -- You are correct. Attaching a vacuum hose adds restriction to the suction side thereby increasing suction head, which inversly reduces discharge (filter) pressure. Vacuuming is usually a short term event and doesn't affect the overall addition of FC much, unless you have a suction cleaner that is left in the pool for extended periods of time.

    Leaves filling up the skimmer basket during the day and subsequently increasing the suction head therby emptying the LQ is why I went to the Stenner pump and drum.
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    Any ideas of where to place the liquidator? Can I just disconnect the chlorine feeder and/or ozone and tie into those lines?
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    Hook the outlet of the LQ to the drain port where the ozonator is hooked to now and hook the inlet of the LQ where the tablet feeder is hooked now. That should work.
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    Re: Just switched to BBB - Now I want to automate

    Quote Originally Posted by Bama Rambler
    Hook the outlet of the LQ to the drain port where the ozonator is hooked to now and hook the inlet of the LQ where the tablet feeder is hooked now. That should work.
    Thanks. Also, there seems to be an extra port on the pump. Can I use that and leave the ozonator working? I know it doesn't do much but more sanitation the better.
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    Re: Just switched to BBB - Now I want to automate

    We've had lots of reports where ozonators have caused more problems than they've solved so I wouldn't recommend it, BUT if you really want to leave it hooked up then you can use the other drain plug port for the outlet of the LQ.
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    Re: Just switched to BBB - Now I want to automate

    Quote Originally Posted by Bama Rambler
    Hook the outlet of the LQ to the drain port where the ozonator is hooked to now and hook the inlet of the LQ where the tablet feeder is hooked now. That should work.
    Just got the liquidator and the entry points are too big for the supplied parts. Should I just go to home depot / pool store for replacements? I simply do not want to drill into my piping. Thanks.
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    Re: Just switched to BBB - Now I want to automate

    Lowes or home Depot will bushings or adapters that will work for you.
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    Re: Just switched to BBB - Now I want to automate

    Unrelated but I like how your plumbing looks Dave, do you know if they painted it before or after install? I would guess before but thought I'd ask.
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    Re: Just switched to BBB - Now I want to automate

    Quote Originally Posted by Blueskies21
    Unrelated but I like how your plumbing looks Dave, do you know if they painted it before or after install? I would guess before but thought I'd ask.
    Thanks. The builder actually did it after install. It does blend with the house a lot better.
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