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    Should I go for it or run for the hills?!!

    Just had a PB give me a quote on gunite 400 sq ft pool, 13,500 gallons, 85 ft linear perimeter. 3.6 ft deep -6ft deep in NJ and would like all feedback please!
    Pool includes:
    Engineered structural plan,layout,form
    excavation
    45 tons 3/4 clean gravel 6" base under pool
    all piping schedule 40 pvc 2" & 3"
    bar #4 12" on center both ways
    electrical bonding on rebar and call town for electrical inspection
    5,000 psi gunite shell lifetime structural guarantee
    concrete pad for equip
    2" skimmer return lines and 3" main drain
    2" pvc manifolds, pressure testing all plumbing lines and backfill sand.
    1 hp jandy stealth pump
    jandy dev 60 commercial grade filter
    325,000 btu jandy legacy natural gas heater
    Polaris 3900 halcon auto vacuum with own dedicated line and pump
    aquapure 1400 salt clorine generator
    double main drain vgba code compliant lids for safety purposes
    hydrostatic relief valve
    4 returns for circulators
    2 skimmers for cleaning surface area
    6" waterline tile
    bullnose bluestone coping 3" x 12" x 2"
    pebble fina pool finish
    steps, beaches, swimouts

    pool price $ 77,350
    electric hook up 50ft $5,500
    Gas hook up 50ft $1,750

    jandy rsb pool and spa control

    one rsb control system with a pad inside the home with press of a button $6,500

    upgrade pebble finish:

    Pebble Tec $2,700
    Pebblesheen $3,300

    Spa 8ft x 8 Ft , 8 jets, 2 hp blower, 3 hp jet pump, 2 returns filtering
    led spa ligh, pebble finish same as pool, rock waterfall in front of spa $9,000



    pool patio
    500 sq ft techno block Olympia or equiv $10,000


    engineering if required $1,500
    topo if required $1,000
    seepage pit if required $3,500
    permit fees $1,000
    safety cover $4,500

    Total price $110,100 not including plater upgrades, fencing, or cover

    Thanks
    Freeform gunite, 14,000 gallon saltwater sport pool.
    10 ton moss rock w/ waterfall, 50 sq ft raised spa.
    Bluestone coping, pebblesheen. Jandy pro flo 1 hp pump, legacy 325k heater.

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    Re: Should I go for it or run for the hills?!!

    That price is very high. Normally for that kind of money you should be getting custom natural stonework everywhere, a far larger deck, and several additional bells and whistles.
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    Re: Should I go for it or run for the hills?!!

    Too rich for my blood!
    16x32x52" Steel Cornelius Miramar AGP Vinyl liner 13,100 gal. Buried 2 ft.
    2 Speed Hayward Power-Flo Matrix 85 g.p.m. 22" 250lb. sand filter hard plumbed
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    Re: Should I go for it or run for the hills?!!

    Wow, that seems very expensive. My pool was built last fall. See my signature for a description as mine is nearly identical in size. I have a waterfall wall with two sheer waterfalls. I have no heater but I have two Jandy color LED lights. I also have the same SWCG with a PDA remote. I also have Travertine coping and around 300 sf of travertine decking. No spa. I spent less than 50k and that includes resodding around 3000 sf of yard.
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    Gunite/Plaster pool at 13k gallons. All Jandy with CL340 series cartridge filter, 1.5 HP Jandy Stealth pump. Jandy 1400 SWCG and PDA4 controller. Dual waterfalls. Polaris 280. Pool installed August 2012. Southern Louisiana. And lets not forget my trusty TF100 test kit!

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    Re: Should I go for it or run for the hills?!!

    Beautiful pool, love the blue color, what shade?
    Freeform gunite, 14,000 gallon saltwater sport pool.
    10 ton moss rock w/ waterfall, 50 sq ft raised spa.
    Bluestone coping, pebblesheen. Jandy pro flo 1 hp pump, legacy 325k heater.

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    Re: Should I go for it or run for the hills?!!

    Aren't these prices region specific. We always get hosed here in NJ
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    Re: Should I go for it or run for the hills?!!

    I feel that he is overcharging, the electric alone $5,500 for only 50 ft, pebbletec and sheen cost builder same. How much should a jandy automatic system installed cost?
    Freeform gunite, 14,000 gallon saltwater sport pool.
    10 ton moss rock w/ waterfall, 50 sq ft raised spa.
    Bluestone coping, pebblesheen. Jandy pro flo 1 hp pump, legacy 325k heater.

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    Re: Should I go for it or run for the hills?!!

    Hudsonviews,

    The plaster is light grey. I told the builder I wanted the water to look blue all the time and that is the color plaster he suggested.

    Dave
    Gunite/Plaster pool at 13k gallons. All Jandy with CL340 series cartridge filter, 1.5 HP Jandy Stealth pump. Jandy 1400 SWCG and PDA4 controller. Dual waterfalls. Polaris 280. Pool installed August 2012. Southern Louisiana. And lets not forget my trusty TF100 test kit!

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    Re: Should I go for it or run for the hills?!!

    I know it is different states, but I think that is really high. The spa, seems in line, but the pool seems about more than twice it should cost.

    Are they adding $3200 to upgrade from pebble fina to pebblesheen?

    McKinney, TX
    Pool build in progress, 14.8K gallons, OK flagstone copping (sealed), IG Gunite/Pebblesheen (Blue Granite), Pentair intelliflow 3050 vs - svrs, Pentair IC20 Salt-Gen, 60 sq ft Pentair DE filter, 400k BTU Pentair (NG) heater, Polaris 280 with Booster, Dual Time Clocks with freeze protect feature, Pool (1) 500w (1) 100W Spa (1) 100w lights, (2) Skimmers, 4 Pool Returns, 6 Spa Jets, water features incl (3) 12 scuppers on 12 x 31 raised beam, (2) Gushers on tanning ledge, and double cut spa spillway. controlled by easytouch 8
    http://www.troublefreepool.com/under...t56120-40.html

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    Re: Should I go for it or run for the hills?!!

    According to his estimate it was to upgrade. Which should have been a lot closer too.
    Freeform gunite, 14,000 gallon saltwater sport pool.
    10 ton moss rock w/ waterfall, 50 sq ft raised spa.
    Bluestone coping, pebblesheen. Jandy pro flo 1 hp pump, legacy 325k heater.

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    Re: Should I go for it or run for the hills?!!

    Just received another quote from PB that I contacted a few weeks ago and was waiting on. He actually emailed me this morning and thought I would share.


    Custom freeform pool with raised spa and waterfall
    400 sqft pool 60 sq Spa pool depth 3 1/2 ft - 6 ft
    Pre-const: Prepare and submit all necessary building, plumb, electric and fire permit applic and secure permits,
    design energy efficient hydraulic system for pool circulation.
    #4 bars in pool 12" center each way, elevate cage 3" from gravel, install drop rod at beam,.
    2 main drains on dedicated 3" suction line in deep end
    2 waterway venture skimmers on dedicated 3" suction line with isolated valves.
    2 main drains on dedicated 3" suction line in spa
    8 hot water hydrotherapy jets in spa
    1.5" pressure side vacuum line in pool.
    4 returns, all equipment on dedicated pad
    install jandy automatic water filler, fresh water supply included.
    install 3 light niches for underwater lights 2 pool 1 spa
    air test plumbing and all electric lines and maintain air lines during construction.
    shotcrete
    install 4000 psi dry mix shotcrete(gunite)
    all beams shot to 12" thickness
    floor and walls will be 12"
    install deep end bench and sundeck
    covera all gunite surfaces with burlap and soaker hose hydrate for 7 days
    backfill and rough grade

    equipment: 3 year warranty on all equip
    Pentair intelliflo vs and svrs variable speed pump for primary circulation in pool and spa
    Pentair clean and clear plus cartridge filter ccp420
    Pentair mastertemp 400btu nat gas heater and line
    2 Pentair glo brite led lights in pool and spa
    Pentair easytouch pool and spa control system with indoor control panel for all functions
    Pentair salt chlorine generator

    coping 2" x12" x24 blue stone based on 90 sq ft at @45 per sq ft material only
    flash all walls and surfaces where tile is to be installed
    supply and install 50 sq ft frost free waterline tile around perimeter of pool and inside skimmer mouth
    allow tile to set up for minimum 24 hours apply grout and caulk expansion joints
    supply and install 400 sq ft of interlocking pavers around pool on sand base with clean fill sand @ $12 sq ft

    pebblesheen
    matching main drain and hydrostatic relief plug

    complete price including building permits, labor,electric, plumbing materials and winter cover

    $78,500 pool and spa with pebble sheen finish
    $74,500 pool with plaster finish



    Please give me your thoughts and opinions
    Freeform gunite, 14,000 gallon saltwater sport pool.
    10 ton moss rock w/ waterfall, 50 sq ft raised spa.
    Bluestone coping, pebblesheen. Jandy pro flo 1 hp pump, legacy 325k heater.

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    Re: Should I go for it or run for the hills?!!

    Tx steel beautiful pool also! Any more pictures of the blue granite?
    Freeform gunite, 14,000 gallon saltwater sport pool.
    10 ton moss rock w/ waterfall, 50 sq ft raised spa.
    Bluestone coping, pebblesheen. Jandy pro flo 1 hp pump, legacy 325k heater.

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    Re: Should I go for it or run for the hills?!!

    PB said spa could run same pump as pool, said another pump would be overkill, since is 400 sq ft pool and pump is variable speed. Said could have blowers as volcano jet. Said that spa mode would bypass pool and would be fine. Please comment! Thx
    Freeform gunite, 14,000 gallon saltwater sport pool.
    10 ton moss rock w/ waterfall, 50 sq ft raised spa.
    Bluestone coping, pebblesheen. Jandy pro flo 1 hp pump, legacy 325k heater.

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