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    hoping I've learned something from last year!

    Ok, ready to open the pool up. Confident what I have learned on pool school last year will help me have much greater success this year.

    I do have a couple questions. The water is green but I can see the bottom of the pool. I know I need to remove manually as much leaves, etc. as I can. I am wondering if I should vacuum to waste before I get me CYA and PH in the appropriate range before shocking or if I should remove what I can, get CYA and PH where it needs to be,run the filter 24/7 and shock? Last year I had used a flock treatment before shocking, which, was just before I joined this forum. Thanks!
    25,000 gallon
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    filter size is 26 diameter
    flow rate 70 GPM
    AG Pool (33ft.) was newly installed in spring 2011
    location: NE OK

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    Re: hoping I've learned something from last year!

    Re-read my post. Sounds confusing. Basically wondering do I vacuum to waste before starting the shock process?
    25,000 gallon
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    filter size is 26 diameter
    flow rate 70 GPM
    AG Pool (33ft.) was newly installed in spring 2011
    location: NE OK

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    Re: hoping I've learned something from last year!

    Quote Originally Posted by curlyfry22
    Ok, ready to open the pool up. Confident what I have learned on pool school last year will help me have much greater success this year.

    I do have a couple questions. The water is green but I can see the bottom of the pool. I know I need to remove manually as much leaves, etc. as I can. I am wondering if I should vacuum to waste before I get me CYA and PH in the appropriate range before shocking or if I should remove what I can, get CYA and PH where it needs to be,run the filter 24/7 and shock? Last year I had used a flock treatment before shocking, which, was just before I joined this forum. Thanks!
    Test the water and see if it's salvageable.

    And why not vacuum to filter and then backwash? Less water lost that way.
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    Re: hoping I've learned something from last year!

    Here are my test results:
    FC-0
    TA- 80
    PH 7.5
    CA--55
    Wow! Nobody I know personally who has ever given me previous advice in clearing a green pool has told me to vacuum to filter and backwash when it's been green. YES!!!! I would much rather do that!!!! I have always been told that I am just shooting everything back into the pool and the algae will be in my sand filter and grow there. Wow! Last year it took me over a month to get my pool cleared up. I am hoping for a maximum of a week this time. Assuming I need to lower my PH just a tad? The CA test is always hard for me to read. It's somewhere between 50-60 depending on the lighting.
    25,000 gallon
    AG
    Sand
    filter size is 26 diameter
    flow rate 70 GPM
    AG Pool (33ft.) was newly installed in spring 2011
    location: NE OK

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    Re: hoping I've learned something from last year!

    Quote Originally Posted by curlyfry22
    Here are my test results:
    FC-0
    TA- 80
    PH 7.5
    CA--55
    Wow! Nobody I know personally who has ever given me previous advice in clearing a green pool has told me to vacuum to filter and backwash when it's been green. YES!!!! I would much rather do that!!!! I have always been told that I am just shooting everything back into the pool and the algae will be in my sand filter and grow there. Wow! Last year it took me over a month to get my pool cleared up. I am hoping for a maximum of a week this time. Assuming I need to lower my PH just a tad? The CA test is always hard for me to read. It's somewhere between 50-60 depending on the lighting.
    Algae doesn't grow without sunlight... it wouldn't grow in your filter.

    55 is pretty high CYA to run the shock process. But it's your call. If it's just green, it can be done. If there's a pile of leaves composting on the bottom, you'll end up backflushing so much that you'll use the same amount of water. It might not be a bad idea to vacuum out the worst chunks to waste and lower that CYA number up front.

    The pH is fine. Reread the shock process in Pool School and let 'er rip.
    16K freeform gunite with spa; Pentair 4000 DE filter; Century Whisperflow 1 HP; Pentair Minimax heater.
    Troublefree does not mean Maintenancefree. It's like brushing your teeth: You can spend a couple minutes a day and pennies a week or go to the dentist once a year and spend several thousand dollars.
    A pool is like a pet - you have to feed it every day, even the days you don't want to play with it!

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    Re: hoping I've learned something from last year!

    Ok, I will continue to remove what I can manually then vacuum to waste, re-fill, re-test and let'er rip! Thanks!
    25,000 gallon
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    filter size is 26 diameter
    flow rate 70 GPM
    AG Pool (33ft.) was newly installed in spring 2011
    location: NE OK

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    Re: hoping I've learned something from last year!

    Quote Originally Posted by curlyfry22
    Ok, I will continue to remove what I can manually then vacuum to waste, re-fill, re-test and let'er rip! Thanks!
    Don't forget to post pictures!
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    Troublefree does not mean Maintenancefree. It's like brushing your teeth: You can spend a couple minutes a day and pennies a week or go to the dentist once a year and spend several thousand dollars.
    A pool is like a pet - you have to feed it every day, even the days you don't want to play with it!

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    Re: hoping I've learned something from last year!

    Ok, here is where I am at. Shock process started a day late because when I went to turn my filter on we discovered the switch broke off. We had to have an electrician by-pass the switch. We had a switch in our shop for the power so it was a pretty quick fix. Water has turned from green to hazy blue. I've got to of my girls in the pool scooping out what couldn't be reached from the outside. Still have a lot of brushing and vacuuming to go. I do have a couple concerns: Here are my numbers:
    FC-14.5
    TA-110
    CH-200
    PH-7.4
    CA-30
    I must have figured my CA too high to start and in doing so I put way too much bleach in initially. My current shock level is 12. I feel we are making good progress. Last year it took me over a month and once I found this forum another week or so to clear it up. My biggest concern right now is the gritty sandy film that has attached itself to the walls of my pool. It is pretty much impossible to brush off and it is so bad that it will leave some pretty terrible scrapes and scratches on my swimmers if I cannot get it off. It also doesn't look nice at all. Hoping there is a solution to helping get whatever it is off. It feels like someone plastered sand on the inside walls of the pool. Please tell me there is a way to get it off...
    25,000 gallon
    AG
    Sand
    filter size is 26 diameter
    flow rate 70 GPM
    AG Pool (33ft.) was newly installed in spring 2011
    location: NE OK

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