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    Finally!! New Build in Toronto, ON

    Started today

    • 16 ft wide x 34 ft long Humpback Kidney Shape
      14 Gauge “Galvanized” Steel Walls
      Double track “Snap Lock” Coping
      Separate Main Drain and Skimmer Suction Lines
      Widemouth “Through The Wall Mount” Skimmer
      Main Drain w/ Hydrostatic Valve and an “Anti-Vortex” Safety Cover
      Return “Inlet” Fittings (2 in Total)
      Acrylic In-Wall 8 ft Step with 2 Return Jets on a Separate Line
      Hayward S244T2 24” Sand Filter
      Hayward 1hp Super Pump 2 speed
      Raypak PR266 EN 266,000 btu, Electronic & Digital Natural Gas Heater
      AquaRite Salt Chlorine Generating System
      Aqualamp Lighting System (2 x LED) w/ remote
      Lock-in Fitted Winter Cover
      Acrylic Step Cover 6ft
      Extra Water Line for Pool Cleaner
      Maintenance Kit:
      Deluxe Vacuum Hose (35’ length) Deluxe Vacuum Head
      Deluxe Telescopic Pole (8’ - 16’) Deluxe Leaf Skimmer
      Stainless Steel 3 Tread Ladder Deluxe Thermometer

      Pool Installation
      Excavation w Backhoe Excavator & Fill Removal using a Bobcat (as a second machine)
      Leveling and Concreting the Steel Walls using 3000 psi Concrete
      Three Stage Hard Bottom:
      1st Stage - Gravel (3/4” Clear Stone) 4 - 6” Thickness
      2nd Stage - Concrete (3000 psi) 4” Thickness
      3rd Stage - Vermiculite Coating 1” Thickness
      Plumbing the Pool to the Filtration Equipment with 2” Flex PVC or Polyethelyne Piping
      Plumbing of Filtration Equipment and any Aboveground Plumbing with Schedule 40 Rigid PVC
      Back Fill with 3/4” Clear Stone or Granular “A”
      Concrete Deck (3’ width) 4000 psi, Air-entrained Concrete 4 - 5” Thickness
      Re-inforced with 6 X 6 Steel Mesh, or Rebar (Where needed or Applicable)
      Deck is Supported on Double “A” Deck Frame System


    Self-drawn plan / design:


    Day 1: Excavation. Weather is calling for thunderstorms so not sure if they will be done today or get stopped due to rain.



    16'x34' Inground Vinyl Pool. 65,500L. Hayward S244T2 24” Sand Filter. Hayward 1hp Super Pump. Raypak PR266 EN 266,000 btu,. AquaRite SWCG. Aqualamp LED 2 w/ remote

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    Re: Finally!! New Build in Toronto, ON







    16'x34' Inground Vinyl Pool. 65,500L. Hayward S244T2 24” Sand Filter. Hayward 1hp Super Pump. Raypak PR266 EN 266,000 btu,. AquaRite SWCG. Aqualamp LED 2 w/ remote

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    Re: Finally!! New Build in Toronto, ON

    More pics from yesterday's dig:





    16'x34' Inground Vinyl Pool. 65,500L. Hayward S244T2 24” Sand Filter. Hayward 1hp Super Pump. Raypak PR266 EN 266,000 btu,. AquaRite SWCG. Aqualamp LED 2 w/ remote

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    Re: Finally!! New Build in Toronto, ON

    Nice! Keep the pics coming!!!
    I'd bet you my bikini you'll never get TFP water from a pool store!

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    Re: Finally!! New Build in Toronto, ON

    16'x34' Inground Vinyl Pool. 65,500L. Hayward S244T2 24” Sand Filter. Hayward 1hp Super Pump. Raypak PR266 EN 266,000 btu,. AquaRite SWCG. Aqualamp LED 2 w/ remote

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    Re: Finally!! New Build in Toronto, ON

    Raining here so no work today.

    Upgraded to an 8' step (from 6')

    Question - which test kit do I need to buy? I want to buy one from here and support the site.

    Other Questions...

    Filter - should I upgrade to Cartridge? Or is sand better?

    Pump - Stay with 1HP pump or go to a variable? We will be having a waterfall / feature installed.
    16'x34' Inground Vinyl Pool. 65,500L. Hayward S244T2 24” Sand Filter. Hayward 1hp Super Pump. Raypak PR266 EN 266,000 btu,. AquaRite SWCG. Aqualamp LED 2 w/ remote

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    Re: Finally!! New Build in Toronto, ON

    Quote Originally Posted by Shaf77
    Raining here so no work today.

    Upgraded to an 8' step (from 6')

    Question - which test kit do I need to buy? I want to buy one from here and support the site.

    Other Questions...

    Filter - should I upgrade to Cartridge? Or is sand better?

    Pump - Stay with 1HP pump or go to a variable? We will be having a waterfall / feature installed.
    Anyone?
    16'x34' Inground Vinyl Pool. 65,500L. Hayward S244T2 24” Sand Filter. Hayward 1hp Super Pump. Raypak PR266 EN 266,000 btu,. AquaRite SWCG. Aqualamp LED 2 w/ remote

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    Re: Finally!! New Build in Toronto, ON

    It's a busy time of year; someone more knowledgeable than me will be along as soon as they can. In the meantime, read through Pool School by clicking the button at the top of the page.

    The test kit members here usually recommend (myself included!) is the TF-100 from http://www.tftestkits.net/.

    I can't really comment on the filter option, but I'd definitely look at a DE filter if it's an option for you. You'll get a much more thorough cleaning with a DE filter.

    I believe the general consensus is to go with the variable if you can afford it, especially because of energy savings and potential rebates if your state/province offers them (not sure what the situation is in Canada).

    Hope this holds you over until someone else can comment. Enjoy your new pool, and please post new pictures as you take them!
    27,000 gal. vinyl in-ground pool w/ 1.5" piping, 1 HP Pentair SuperFlo pump, Hayward Pro Series sand filter

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    Re: Finally!! New Build in Toronto, ON

    Personal taste from someone who lived in Ontario less than a year ago and now lives in Québec.

    I Suggest the TF-100 kit. I don't have it (yet), but most guys here seem to recommend it over all others. Plus, it seems most guys here have that kit, and therefore can help you use it correctly. I ordered it from poolsupplyworld.com. If you get it shipped to a FedEX store in Buffalo, NY, they will hold it for you for 3$ and you can just go pick it up at your convenience...

    I would go with cartridge filter simply for the fact that water costs money in Ontario and back-washing means you will have to add water back to your pool, increasing cost. Cartridges can be pulled out of of the filter and cleaned, then re-inserted. A bit more of a hassle, but you do save a little money there.

    Pump. As price of electricity is ridiculous in Ontario (my house in Québec costs less than half of my Ontario electricity bill, monthly), I suggest buying a pump that needs to run as little as possible to get what you need out of it. I have a 3/4 HP Tristar, and it runs everything very nicely. I will even add deck jets in a couple weeks. I don't run my pump all day, only about 15 hours. I would run it much less (6-8 hours), but my solar needs the pump to run to heat the pool... I echo stevenm's comments on variable if you can afford it. You will make your money back in a season or two.

    Again, I'll reiterate that I am brand new here as well, this is my first season with a pool but this site has already taught me so much. Great bunch of guys here, listen to them...

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    Re: Finally!! New Build in Toronto, ON

    16'x34' Inground Vinyl Pool. 65,500L. Hayward S244T2 24” Sand Filter. Hayward 1hp Super Pump. Raypak PR266 EN 266,000 btu,. AquaRite SWCG. Aqualamp LED 2 w/ remote

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    Re: Finally!! New Build in Toronto, ON

    Final pics... Thoughts / comments are welcome...



    16'x34' Inground Vinyl Pool. 65,500L. Hayward S244T2 24” Sand Filter. Hayward 1hp Super Pump. Raypak PR266 EN 266,000 btu,. AquaRite SWCG. Aqualamp LED 2 w/ remote

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    Re: Finally!! New Build in Toronto, ON

    what kind of coping and pavers did you use, they look great. I also really looking me the retaining wall.

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    Re: Finally!! New Build in Toronto, ON

    Looks great, I love the retaining wall rocks.
    DONE, 20 x 40, inground gunite, 30" raised bond beam with 3 12" sheer descents, 8' diving board, pentair 420 cartridge filter, vs-3050 pump, intellechlor ic-40, auto cvr, Tahoe blue pebble tech, 6ea 4' x 12.5' & 2ea 1' x 12.5' helicol solar panels, legend robotic cleaner.

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    Love the pavers....
    18k: IG: Black Granite Liner: Aspen: 16x33.5: SWG: Polaris 280

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawkgt
    what kind of coping and pavers did you use, they look great. I also really looking me the retaining wall.
    The coping is a natural stone (limestone).

    All the wall caps, firepit bench and firepit have the same stone.

    Pavers are Unilock Beacon Hill

    Accent stone is Oaks Collonade

    Retaining walls are all armour stone.
    16'x34' Inground Vinyl Pool. 65,500L. Hayward S244T2 24” Sand Filter. Hayward 1hp Super Pump. Raypak PR266 EN 266,000 btu,. AquaRite SWCG. Aqualamp LED 2 w/ remote

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    Re: Finally!! New Build in Toronto, ON

    I'm looking into having a vinyl pool installed with jets in the steps; just as you had mentioned in the original post. Our Hayward builder is all for it, our Fox builder is against it. We live in Ontario also, so exact same climate & conditions. Have you had any problems with yours? Did they stop working or leaking d/t the flex in acrylic/fiberglass steps? And do you have a total of 3 seperate return lines? (one for pool cleaner, one for step jets, and one for pool wall jet?)
    Thanks for your input!

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    Re: Finally!! New Build in Toronto, ON

    OOPS, I mistook your join date for your posting date. With our weather I'm guessing you haven't even been able to take a dip in your new pool yet! But keep me posted if you run into any problems with your step jets. Your pool looks perfect BTW! Enjoy!

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    Re: Finally!! New Build in Toronto, ON

    Quote Originally Posted by CHP View Post
    I'm looking into having a vinyl pool installed with jets in the steps; just as you had mentioned in the original post. Our Hayward builder is all for it, our Fox builder is against it. We live in Ontario also, so exact same climate & conditions. Have you had any problems with yours? Did they stop working or leaking d/t the flex in acrylic/fiberglass steps? And do you have a total of 3 seperate return lines? (one for pool cleaner, one for step jets, and one for pool wall jet?)
    Thanks for your input!
    You need to have return jets in the steps.. Or else the water will not circulate in that area.

    We have a pair of return at the steps, on return in the shallow end and another in the deep end. And the waterfall as a separate one. We do not have one for pool cleaner. I use a robot. If I want to manually clean, I connect to the skimmer.

    Quote Originally Posted by CHP View Post
    OOPS, I mistook your join date for your posting date. With our weather I'm guessing you haven't even been able to take a dip in your new pool yet! But keep me posted if you run into any problems with your step jets. Your pool looks perfect BTW! Enjoy!
    We actually opened up the pool Easter Monday. Starting swimming a couple of weeks ago already!

    The past weekend was great. Heated up the pool to 88F and we swam both Saturday and Sunday.

    Thanks for the comments
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    Re: Finally!! New Build in Toronto, ON

    Great looking pool! The finished product is beautiful!
    18,000 gal, 18x32 IGP, vinyl liner, 3 to 5.5ft depth. One inlet/skimmer (Aqua Genie), one main drain. Hayward Pro Series Sand Filter w/filtration rate of 20 GPM/FT, Two-Speed Pentair Whisperflo 1 HP pump, Natural Gas Hayward H200 pool heater, Aquabot T2 (200 Series) Robotic Pool Cleaner (my best friend), Automatic Electric Pool Cover (2nd best friend).

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    Re: Finally!! New Build in Toronto, ON

    Quote Originally Posted by h2ctpdjl View Post
    Great looking pool! The finished product is beautiful!
    Thanks!
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