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    Jenischmeni says "Hi!"

    I'm so excited to have found this forum and wish that I'd found it 7 years ago. Y'all would have saved me a lot of $$$$$$$ and a lot of headaches! A friend just told me about this forum over the weekend (thanks, Andy!) and I couldn't wait to start reading.

    Here's my history: Small IG fiberglass pool installed 7 years ago with a SWG from the beginning. Before the end of the first season, that SWG's control panel stopped working. Since it was near to closing, the pool store held off repairs until the opening of season 2. Beginning of season 2, they ordered parts which never came in. End of season 2, they replaced the SWG system with a Frog hybrid system and SWG. At the opening for year 3, I followed some horrible advice from a pool store and spent a lot of unnecessary dollars fighting phosphates for an entire summer. I still want to strangle the folks at that pool store for this. At the end of that summer, I encountered an elderly gentleman in a small mom-and-pop store who said to me, "Aw shoot! We've had pools for 50 years and we didn't worry about no stupid phosphates. It didn't hurt our pools none." Beginning of year 4, I just drained the whole shebang and filled with hose water. (To fill my entire pool is only a cost of $45 to my water bill - plus chemicals, of course.) I've never tested for phosphates since; nor will I ever again. I tossed the phosphate test kit into the trash.

    With the SWG, I generally only need to worry about lowering the PH and adding stabilizer. (For some reason, I just seem to burn through that stuff! LOL)

    I have a GREAT pool guy who always opens and closes my pool for me (He also handles any mechanical repairs that may arise like when a storm blew a gas grill into the pump and filter and took out the PVC pipes.)

    Last year, a crack developed in the SW cell. (Made by King who no longer makes SWG.) He was able to patch the crack but the control box wasn't working quite right. Hubby was able to dismantle the cell, clean off the contacts and it operated "okay" for the summer with some assistance from liquid chlorine now and then. (I've usually had to add some after use anyway.)

    This year, the same crack reappeared (yes, I store it indoors over the winter) and he was able to again patch it. King will honor their warranty on the cell, but only if we pay $500. (Doesn't feel so much like a warranty to me.) The pool store told me it'd be $1500 to replace the salt system and were kind of snarky when I was displeased to shell out this much money. (They feel that I had the system for 7 years and should be happy to keep spending $1500 every 7 years.)

    After reading a LOT of posts about this, I *think* we can get this system through another season and I think we may have identified that the salt is too low. We've found a system through an online company (I don't know if I can post the company here). We're looking at the CompuPool Salt Chlorine Generator CPSC24. If we can last the season, we'll order it for next season. If we can't, we'll order sooner. (The people on the phone have been really helpful.)

    Since we just replaced the pump last week, I'd sure like to wait before shelling out more moolah.

    In closing, thanks for a wonderful site with easy to understand advice. I cannot adequately express how grateful I am to have found you!
    Central Indiana, 7200 gallon, IG fiberglass, L250 Jacuzzi sand filter, Hayward H150 gas heater, Pentair fiber optic light - installed '06. AOSmith 1.0hp pump, CPSC-24 SWG - installed '13. TF-100 Test Kit.

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    Re: Jenischmeni says "Hi!"

    Welcome to TFP!
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    Re: Jenischmeni says "Hi!"

    Welcome to the forum

    A friend just told me about this forum over the weekend (thanks, Andy!)
    Yeah, thanks Andy!
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    Re: Jenischmeni says "Hi!"

    Welcome to tfp, Jenischmeni

    What is your pool volume? We generally recommend sizing the swg 1.5-3.0 times larger.
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    Re: Jenischmeni says "Hi!"

    If I seem to recall it's just under 6,000 gallons. However, the installer swears the mfg. is wrong and it's closer to 10,000 gallons. He told me to treat it as 10,000 gallons.
    Central Indiana, 7200 gallon, IG fiberglass, L250 Jacuzzi sand filter, Hayward H150 gas heater, Pentair fiber optic light - installed '06. AOSmith 1.0hp pump, CPSC-24 SWG - installed '13. TF-100 Test Kit.

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    Re: Jenischmeni says "Hi!"

    If you want, you can post some dimensions (and a picture if possible) and we can estimate.
    TFP Expert who uses Pool School and my TF100 test kit along with PoolMath for my: Round 11K gallon AGP with deep end, 20" sand filter, Matrix 1hp 2spd, 6 2ftX20ft solar panels (and solar cover!), Intex SWCG (copper bars disconnected) and a Rubadub hot tub (chlorine). The SLAM process is not finished until: 1. CC < 0.5 ppm, 2. An OCLT < 1.0 ppm and, 3. The water is crystal clear.

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    Re: Jenischmeni says "Hi!"

    If you want the manufacturer and model, I can give it. The dimensions are 11' x 23'. The deep end is 5'6" and the shallow end is uh...maybe 3'? It has a seat running around the shallow end (which makes it shallower there, of course.) I'm adding a photo and crossing my fingers that I do it right.
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    Very nice pool

    Quote Originally Posted by Jenischmeni
    If you want the manufacturer and model, I can give it.
    They may list the volume on their website.

    Roughly, I get 7000 gallons (is the 11' measured across the deep or shallow?...I assumed deep).
    TFP Expert who uses Pool School and my TF100 test kit along with PoolMath for my: Round 11K gallon AGP with deep end, 20" sand filter, Matrix 1hp 2spd, 6 2ftX20ft solar panels (and solar cover!), Intex SWCG (copper bars disconnected) and a Rubadub hot tub (chlorine). The SLAM process is not finished until: 1. CC < 0.5 ppm, 2. An OCLT < 1.0 ppm and, 3. The water is crystal clear.

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    Welcome to TFP
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    Re: Jenischmeni says "Hi!"

    Welcome to TFP! Lovely pool!

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    Re: Jenischmeni says "Hi!"

    You're too kind, thanks for the compliment. It's very small as we were working with a small area and I wanted a little (itty bitty) landscaping around the pool and between the pool and retaining wall.

    The manufacturer didn't list the gallons - I had already looked.

    No, the widest portion is in the shallow end. The picture is a bit deceiving but the two ends are closer to same width than you realize. There's probably only a difference of no more than 6" between the two ends.
    Central Indiana, 7200 gallon, IG fiberglass, L250 Jacuzzi sand filter, Hayward H150 gas heater, Pentair fiber optic light - installed '06. AOSmith 1.0hp pump, CPSC-24 SWG - installed '13. TF-100 Test Kit.

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    Re: Jenischmeni says "Hi!"

    Welcome! Those floats are awesome.
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    Re: Jenischmeni says "Hi!"

    Thanks for the warm welcome and kind compliments. I think I'm going to enjoy this place.
    Central Indiana, 7200 gallon, IG fiberglass, L250 Jacuzzi sand filter, Hayward H150 gas heater, Pentair fiber optic light - installed '06. AOSmith 1.0hp pump, CPSC-24 SWG - installed '13. TF-100 Test Kit.

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