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    6-way valve trouble

    I have a 16'x48" summer escapes, looks like a intek ultra frame. I replaced the pump & filter on it with a columbia I found on ebay like this one:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/2HP-Above-Gr...item5af17bb571

    Well it worked awesome last year kept the pool nice and clean. Well when winter came along I drain the filter set the valve to winter and moved the pump into the garage but left the filter out, probably a mistake. Anyway the only trouble I had prior to today with it was it was too powerful for the skimmer that came with the pool I couldn't vac without crushing the old cartridge tube(lower portion of skimmer).

    Anyway getting the pool around & ready this year I installed a hayward through the wall skimmer box that's hopefully stronger than the old one. I topped off the pool and went to start up the filter and I have water coming out of the waste discharge and nothing coming out of the return. I took off the return line to make sure nothing was in it its clear. I'm not sure if the valve is just failing to close all the way or stuck or what???
    I have no problems tearing it apart if it needs it but I need some guidance.
    16' X 48" Summer Escapes Pro Series, Columbia 2-Hp Pump & 22" Sand filter

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    Re: 6-way valve trouble

    I would suggest opening up the valve and seeing if there is anything wrong with the spider gasket or is something else is preventing the valve from seating properly.
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    Re: 6-way valve trouble

    This is what it looks like






    I found some debris in there but not a whole lot and not enough that I would think that it would've kept the plate from seating.

    This is what it's doing while set to filter


    Is it possible for that "plate"(gray thing) to have shifted?
    16' X 48" Summer Escapes Pro Series, Columbia 2-Hp Pump & 22" Sand filter

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    Re: 6-way valve trouble

    Wow. That is a lot of water. That does not seem like a little leak. I do not think the grey plate could shift relative to the handle. It can be possible to put the entire top back on wrong, but it looks like you have it lined up correctly based on the flat part next to the screw by the backwash port.

    Have you tried other positions on the valve to see what happens?
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    Re: 6-way valve trouble

    Yeah I've tried the other positions and the only one that seems right is "Waste"

    This picture is exactly how its oriented when set to filter:


    This is how I think the filter works based on the holes in the lower portion



    If thats correct it seems like that plate is off almost 180 ?
    16' X 48" Summer Escapes Pro Series, Columbia 2-Hp Pump & 22" Sand filter

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    Re: 6-way valve trouble

    I should note that even when its set to "waste" the output through the discharge seems to surge all of a sudden then slow down some then surge so I'm not even sure that's working correctly
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    Re: 6-way valve trouble

    I can not picture all the positions. I do know that for WASTE, the hole in the plate should be over the IN from the pump.

    In your picture with the water gushing it does not look like the plate is seated (the tab does not look like it is all the way in the bottom of the slot). Can you lift the handle to force it down? Maybe something is wrong with the spring.
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    Re: 6-way valve trouble

    Maybe it is the spring, I've tried everything I can think of tonight anyway. Thank you for your help I'll take another shot at it tomorrow
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    Re: 6-way valve trouble

    Could the problem be lower than the plate? Like say the pipe under the valve cracked or something
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    Re: 6-way valve trouble

    I think it's the spring too. By looking at the plate and valve body, it's confusing but it looks like it's in the right orientation.
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    Re: 6-way valve trouble

    Not the spring turns out I'm a real maroon as bugs bunny would say. I forgot I turn the filter around when I was draining it before winter and didn't double check everything. I had one hose on the wrong side of the valve. Anyway thanks for the advice and on the plus side I got really comfortable with dismantling the valve assy.
    16' X 48" Summer Escapes Pro Series, Columbia 2-Hp Pump & 22" Sand filter

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    Re: 6-way valve trouble

    Oops. Glad you got it straightened out. It is often the simplest thing ...
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