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    Do I really dump 800 lbs of salt into my pool all at once?

    I have installed a brand new liner and a Jandy aquapure 35 swg on my pool. I have added borax, stabilizer and bleach. As far as I can understand, the Jandy book is saying to just distribute the salt (800 + lbs) around the pool. I am concerned about that salt sitting on my new liner...anyone know what the right way is to do this? I am seriously concerned about having a new liner with all that salt just sitting there. We also installed a second return on the far side of the pool this year so the circulation will be much better than it was . I need some advice please.....
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    Re: Do I really dump 800 lbs of salt into my pool all at onc

    I am going to go change my signature but for the record...we just filled the pool so the water is not 2 years old, also it is a 33 ft pool, not 34 and the pool calculator says it is 26,500 gallons of water...
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    Re: Do I really dump 800 lbs of salt into my pool all at onc

    Just dump it in and stir it around a bit. Salt is the one thing that won't harm the liner by sitting in piles on it.

    A couple of things you want to do before dumping all that salt in there is;
    1) have the water tested for salt. New water rarely has zero salt.

    2) Be sure the swg is turned off before you add it and at least 24 hours after it's dissolved.
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    Re: Do I really dump 800 lbs of salt into my pool all at onc

    So, stir with the broom I guess and then occasionally go stir some more? It won't rub into the liner?
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    Re: Do I really dump 800 lbs of salt into my pool all at onc

    Just kinda stir it around with the net or even your feet. It won't hurt to jut leave it sit, but it'll dissolve a bit faster if you swish it around a bit.
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    Re: Do I really dump 800 lbs of salt into my pool all at onc

    Test prior as stated... and re-check your calculations... I tested and found out I had already 400ppm of salt. The calcs said I needed about 600 pounds to get to 3500ppm... I dumped in 550 pounds and found out I overshot the salt amount by 500ppm. If anything, I would withhold about 3-4 bags.. then retest before you dump in the rest.
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    Re: Do I really dump 800 lbs of salt into my pool all at onc

    If you have kids, or have kids over to swim, dump in 750 and save 50 lbs for this

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    Re: Do I really dump 800 lbs of salt into my pool all at onc

    Also, realize you can use solar salt instead of the pool salt and save a good bit of money ... just will dissolve a little slower, but still within a few minutes.
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    Re: Do I really dump 800 lbs of salt into my pool all at onc

    I've always used pellets from the hardware/big box store, though my usage is 200lbs so maybe this method won't scale up to 800...

    With the pellets they dissolve much faster with a water current. I took a couple old t-shirts, tied off the bottom and stuck a pool noodle through the arm holes. I then poured in (through the neck) half a bag (20lbs) to each, and float them in the pool with a short length of cord to keep them right in front of the water return. They dissolve very rapidly, and then I just pour more salt in until I reach the required amount.

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    Re: Do I really dump 800 lbs of salt into my pool all at onc

    Quote Originally Posted by CindyG1
    I am going to go change my signature but for the record...we just filled the pool so the water is not 2 years old, also it is a 33 ft pool, not 34 and the pool calculator says it is 26,500 gallons of water...
    I think your volume is more like 24500 gallons, since you probably only have a water depth of 46" on average.
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    Re: Do I really dump 800 lbs of salt into my pool all at onc

    Quote Originally Posted by atitus74
    I've always used pellets from the hardware/big box store, though my usage is 200lbs so maybe this method won't scale up to 800...

    With the pellets they dissolve much faster with a water current. I took a couple old t-shirts, tied off the bottom and stuck a pool noodle through the arm holes. I then poured in (through the neck) half a bag (20lbs) to each, and float them in the pool with a short length of cord to keep them right in front of the water return. They dissolve very rapidly, and then I just pour more salt in until I reach the required amount.
    I would use the crystals, since they are cheaper than the formed pellets (and are less likely to have additives). When I top off each season with the crystals, within an hour or so they have disappeared.
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    Re: Do I really dump 800 lbs of salt into my pool all at onc

    OK, I am going to dump about 400 lbs and when it is dissolved I will add 100 lbs and test , etc. .. I am nervous ,but will do ...the water temp is only at 70 degrees right now so no one wants to swim yet..We had 8 inches of rain here in the Ga mountains in the last 24 hours so it's kinda chilly. I am going to put the solar cover on but first I need to get the water balanced and the salt in...
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    Re: Do I really dump 800 lbs of salt into my pool all at onc

    I have put in 400 lbs salt and will put the rest in tomorrow, 1 or 2 bags at a time. 2 years ago I started on this thread when my CYA was like 120 +. I ended up having to drain half of the water out of the pool to get it into reasonable limits. Thanks to this forum I have learned a lot...less is more! I can always add a little more but I don't want to drain to get it down. Many thanks to all of you who have been so very helpful and patient with my ignorance! (although now that I have added an SWG I am feeling really quite smart! LOL)
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    Re: Do I really dump 800 lbs of salt into my pool all at onc

    Before you forget, change the volume in your sig.
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    Re: Do I really dump 800 lbs of salt into my pool all at onc

    Fortunately, if you overshoot the amount of salt, SWGs tend to be forgiving. More so if you overshoot compared to not adding enough. If it's over by a couple hundred ppm you can probably get by without draining any water.
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    Re: Do I really dump 800 lbs of salt into my pool all at onc

    Quote Originally Posted by mmcgovern
    Fortunately, if you overshoot the amount of salt, SWGs tend to be forgiving. More so if you overshoot compared to not adding enough.
    This is specifically NOT true of the intex swg. When the salt level gets high, the current draw will get too high and the transformer will burn out. My guess is that there is a safety fuse in the transformer. Unfortunately the transformer is completely encased in epoxy, and therefore not serviceable. If the salt level is too low, it simply won't come on.

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    Re: Do I really dump 800 lbs of salt into my pool all at onc

    Thanks for correcting me. That is definitely different than my Aqua-rite.
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    Re: Do I really dump 800 lbs of salt into my pool all at onc

    Thanks guys for the info. I have held back 3 bags and will test again in the morning to see how much more to add. My SWG is a Jandy aquapure35 and it calling for 4000 ppm on the salt...I prefer to add slowly since I have had to drain the pool a lot to get my CYA under control a few years ago. Now as I mentioned, I have learned that less is more! That said...mybe I didn't learn...I added Borax this morning to up the PH and now my PH is at 8.2 or more....should have remembered that less is more...LOL
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