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    Are comm protocols for VS pumps compatible?

    Howdy,

    I'm a first time pool buyer and I'm starting the research. One thing I am planning on doing later on after the pool is stable is automate as much as possible. I'm away a lot. My builder uses Hayward exclusively, but I plan on adding mostly Pentair upgrades later. Do the VS pumps across mfg (or at least Hayward and Pentair) use the same communication protocol? It looks like RS485 for Pentair in the manuals. But I can't find the info on Hayward pumps. And that is just the physical layer. The control protocol is a whole different topic.

    I want to know if the Hayward VS pump may be controlled at variable speed by a Pentair Intellitouch later on?


    Cheers,
    Bryan

    IG 8,000gal 12.5'x28', 3HP Intelliflo VS Pump, DE FNS 60sf filter, Easytouch 8p, Screenlogic 2, Rainbow Automatic Chlorine Feeder, Dolphin Supreme M4 Robot, 3x columns w/sheer descents, Color Cascade Bubbler in ledge, Intellibrite 5G, Globrite LED on ledge, 3x Pentair Landscape Lights, 4x Kichler 15745 for patio stairs, 6 returns, 2 skimmers, white plaster w/meta-max and start-up tec, Cool-Deck, concrete coping, Oklahoma sandstone retaining wall

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    Re: Are comm protocols for VS pumps compatible?

    Welcome to TFP!

    I don't have your answer but we have some experts on here who can probably help.

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    Re: Are comm protocols for VS pumps compatible?

    Thanks 257WbyMag. I'm a little bummed no one responded.


    Cheers,
    Bryan

    IG 8,000gal 12.5'x28', 3HP Intelliflo VS Pump, DE FNS 60sf filter, Easytouch 8p, Screenlogic 2, Rainbow Automatic Chlorine Feeder, Dolphin Supreme M4 Robot, 3x columns w/sheer descents, Color Cascade Bubbler in ledge, Intellibrite 5G, Globrite LED on ledge, 3x Pentair Landscape Lights, 4x Kichler 15745 for patio stairs, 6 returns, 2 skimmers, white plaster w/meta-max and start-up tec, Cool-Deck, concrete coping, Oklahoma sandstone retaining wall

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    Re: Are comm protocols for VS pumps compatible?

    I am pretty sure that the protocols are not the same between manufactures because of the issues people run into with mixed systems. Since there are no standards in this area, it make sense they they are not compatible. However, there are several controllers that can communicate with other manufactures pumps, mostly interoperability with the Intelliflo pump since it is so popular. Also, the full compatibility list of most controllers is not well publicized so you might want to talk directly with Pentair about other pumps the Intellitouch might support.

    But you might be better off sticking with a single manufacture because you can usually get an extended warranty with bundling at no extra cost.
    Mark
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    Re: Are comm protocols for VS pumps compatible?

    I was afraid of that. I'll back down to a simple Hayward pump then and use it as a booster for solar or water features then. Or sell it when I upgrade to Pentair. Thx. I will call Pentair.


    Cheers,
    Bryan

    IG 8,000gal 12.5'x28', 3HP Intelliflo VS Pump, DE FNS 60sf filter, Easytouch 8p, Screenlogic 2, Rainbow Automatic Chlorine Feeder, Dolphin Supreme M4 Robot, 3x columns w/sheer descents, Color Cascade Bubbler in ledge, Intellibrite 5G, Globrite LED on ledge, 3x Pentair Landscape Lights, 4x Kichler 15745 for patio stairs, 6 returns, 2 skimmers, white plaster w/meta-max and start-up tec, Cool-Deck, concrete coping, Oklahoma sandstone retaining wall

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    Re: Are comm protocols for VS pumps compatible?

    You shouldn't need a booster for solar. Most IG pumps can easily handle solar. I have a solar on a two story roof and only a 1/2 HP pump.
    Mark
    Hydraulics 101; Pump Ed 101; Pump/Pool Spreadsheets; Pump Run Time Study; DIY Acid Dosing; DIY Cover Roller
    18'x36' 20k plaster, MaxFlo SP2303VSP, Aqualogic PS8 SWCG, 420 sq-ft Cartridge, Solar, 6 jet spa, 1 HP jet pump, 400k BTU NG Heater

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    Re: Are comm protocols for VS pumps compatible?

    eBay it is then. Or maybe I can make a water cannon!


    Cheers,
    Bryan

    IG 8,000gal 12.5'x28', 3HP Intelliflo VS Pump, DE FNS 60sf filter, Easytouch 8p, Screenlogic 2, Rainbow Automatic Chlorine Feeder, Dolphin Supreme M4 Robot, 3x columns w/sheer descents, Color Cascade Bubbler in ledge, Intellibrite 5G, Globrite LED on ledge, 3x Pentair Landscape Lights, 4x Kichler 15745 for patio stairs, 6 returns, 2 skimmers, white plaster w/meta-max and start-up tec, Cool-Deck, concrete coping, Oklahoma sandstone retaining wall

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