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    Confirmation of results/help

    Hi all and thanks for the opportunity to post my questions!
    I started my shock process about two days ago using liquid bleach an have monitored pretty closely however I will admit it was not hourly.
    I can say confidentially that I have kept over 10ppm of cl2 for the duration as the hach test kit I'm using neutralizes 10ppm per each drop of thiosulfate and I am clearly over 10ppm but under 20 ppm, as a second drop of thiosulfate renders the sample clear in color, until me K2006 kit arrives.
    My levels are as follows
    Greater that 10ppm which conforms with the pool calculator qtys required, although I realize my shock levels are to be 16ppm with a level of 40cya
    CL = 10 ppm plus
    CYA = 40
    PH =7.2-7.4
    TA = 100
    CH = 625 (really high I know)
    Overall my problems that I just cannot seem to get all the algae,it is light in color and constant brushing makes the algae easy to see as the light green film brushing churns up.
    Filters were cleaned just before I began the shock process and some foe the bands are broken, overall the 4 filters clean up pretty good.
    Pool is a natural rock pool with multiple boulders under the waterline and I have never really been able to keep the pool consistent.
    Water is only one year old and pool is 6 years old.
    Thoughts/suggestions?
    1-more vigilant on cl2 levels, keeping them in the 16-20PPM range.
    2-CH levels a concern or having an impact on algae control measures?
    Thanks.
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    Re: Confirmation of results/help

    Welcome to TFP!

    Well, you cannot really be certain as to what your FC levels are until you receive your test kit. With this in mind, you're just going to have to continue to be patient, brush a lot, keep running the pump, and keep shocking. Keep the process going until you loses no more than 1 ppm of FC overnight, your water clears, and your CC remains at 0.5 or less. The CH, a separate issue, can be dealt with once your water has finished shocking and is clear.

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    Re: Confirmation of results/help

    Thanks, and ok. Guess I should've said the pool is clear and the algae is in large areas and is not at all very dark in color or noticeable. I'd like to think I'm at least keeping it somewhat in check?
    27,000 gallons, Freeform, IG, with Spa, Filter, Pebble, 3 HP Whisperflo, 525 sq ft cartridge, Hayward Pro Vaccum,

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    Re: Confirmation of results/help

    Quote Originally Posted by dave300
    Thanks, and ok. Guess I should've said the pool is clear and the algae is in large areas and is not at all very dark in color or noticeable. I'd like to think I'm at least keeping it somewhat in check?
    Probably. Don't forget to brush. Algae can grow like a scab to protect it from bleach, and brushing knocks it off.
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    Re: Confirmation of results/help

    Hello again, I now have my K-2006 kit. I keep the CL2 levels up above 10ppm as previously stated for about 8-10 days.
    Again this is a natural rock pool with some inlets and crevices that I guess provide some dead spots and there still is some light algae in these areas.
    Today's readings;
    Free chlorine = .2PPM
    Combined Chlorine = less than .2 (when I add the R-0003 the sample barely turns from clear to a faint pink, one drop of R-0871 clears the faint pink color)
    PH = 7.6
    TA = 110
    CH = 350
    Cyanuric = 40-50

    Overall the pool is much better. Guess what I'm wondering is should I go back into full shock mode since I do have some slight mold in the crevices. These areas may not get good circulation? Can I or should I just elevate the CL2 current levels and keep on scrubbing?
    Thoughts, questions, recommendations? Thank you all. Happy Memorial Day and remember what Memorial Day represents.
    27,000 gallons, Freeform, IG, with Spa, Filter, Pebble, 3 HP Whisperflo, 525 sq ft cartridge, Hayward Pro Vaccum,

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    Re: Confirmation of results/help

    Quote Originally Posted by dave300
    Hello again, I now have my K-2006 kit. I keep the CL2 levels up above 10ppm as previously stated for about 8-10 days.
    Again this is a natural rock pool with some inlets and crevices that I guess provide some dead spots and there still is some light algae in these areas.
    Today's readings;
    Free chlorine = .2PPM
    Combined Chlorine = less than .2 (when I add the R-0003 the sample barely turns from clear to a faint pink, one drop of R-0871 clears the faint pink color)
    PH = 7.6
    TA = 110
    CH = 350
    Cyanuric = 40-50

    Overall the pool is much better. Guess what I'm wondering is should I go back into full shock mode since I do have some slight mold in the crevices. These areas may not get good circulation? Can I or should I just elevate the CL2 current levels and keep on scrubbing?
    Thoughts, questions, recommendations? Thank you all. Happy Memorial Day and remember what Memorial Day represents.
    Keep it at shock til it's clear. and never let FC drop that low again.

    Back to Pool school with you! Reread the shock process and FC/CYA levels
    16K freeform gunite with spa; Pentair 4000 DE filter; Century Whisperflow 1 HP; Pentair Minimax heater.
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    A pool is like a pet - you have to feed it every day, even the days you don't want to play with it!

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    Re: Confirmation of results/help

    Ok. **** that whip hurts
    27,000 gallons, Freeform, IG, with Spa, Filter, Pebble, 3 HP Whisperflo, 525 sq ft cartridge, Hayward Pro Vaccum,

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    Re: Confirmation of results/help

    Just want to let you know that there is no need to use the 25 ml sample when testing for chlorine. .5ppm is enough resolution.
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    Re: Confirmation of results/help

    I just skimmed this thread and don't see the mention of vacuuming which is an essential to remove the debris from your pool....perhaps I overlooked it?
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    Re: Confirmation of results/help

    Thanks all.

    John, not sure I understood, sorry would you mind please explaining?

    Duraleigh, I have a pool vac, Hayward pro series. Not sure if that specifically is what you were asking?

    Thanks all. Dave
    27,000 gallons, Freeform, IG, with Spa, Filter, Pebble, 3 HP Whisperflo, 525 sq ft cartridge, Hayward Pro Vaccum,

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    Re: Confirmation of results/help

    Duraleigh, I have a pool vac, Hayward pro series. Not sure if that specifically is what you were asking?
    Sort of, are you using it to get the visible debris off the floor was my real question.
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    Re: Confirmation of results/help

    Yes sir, I am. We've had some ridiculous winds over the last few weeks, so the vac is running.

    Quote Originally Posted by duraleigh
    Duraleigh, I have a pool vac, Hayward pro series. Not sure if that specifically is what you were asking?
    Sort of, are you using it to get the visible debris off the floor was my real question.
    27,000 gallons, Freeform, IG, with Spa, Filter, Pebble, 3 HP Whisperflo, 525 sq ft cartridge, Hayward Pro Vaccum,

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    Re: Confirmation of results/help

    You were using the 25 ml sample when testing for chlorine, correct? Instead of using that, you can use 10 ml of pool water and multiply the number of drops by .5 ppm. It will save reagent, and .5 ppm is accurate enough.
    John
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    Re: Confirmation of results/help

    Oh, yes I was. Thank you for the suggestion. Dave

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnN
    You were using the 25 ml sample when testing for chlorine, correct? Instead of using that, you can use 10 ml of pool water and multiply the number of drops by .5 ppm. It will save reagent, and .5 ppm is accurate enough.
    27,000 gallons, Freeform, IG, with Spa, Filter, Pebble, 3 HP Whisperflo, 525 sq ft cartridge, Hayward Pro Vaccum,

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