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    Another Newbie Here

    Greetings all,

    Happy to be a member of the site. I was a bit intimidated with managing my pool last year after we got it.... and didn't pay much attention to it other then throwing a sack of shock and a chlorine puck in it every now and then. I closed the pool and when I opened it 10 days ago I had a green swamp (sorry no pics). It was complete with tadpoles, frogs and who knows what else. There was a lot of pine straw on the bottom. I also had to clean the impeller as it clogged up with pine straw.

    For the past week - I've been added 2 lbs of shock every night when I get home from work (at midnight). I still can't see the bottom but I think I'm moving in the right direction. I ordered and received the TF100 test kit and here are the numbers as of this morning:

    PH 6.8
    CYA 0
    CH 150
    TA 40
    FC 6
    CC 1
    TC 7

    Any advice would be appreciated regarding those numbers.
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    Re: Another Newbie Here

    - gotta get CYA up
    - gotta get Ph up
    - gotta get TA up
    - looks like a shock might be in order

    Bit of work to do there, are you using pool calculator.com?
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    Re: Another Newbie Here

    Yeah, what he said.

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    Re: Another Newbie Here

    Been doing 2 lbs of shock every night. Should I start shocking during the day as well .... and add bleach ....etc.

    I'm new to the calculator as well. I'll check it out. Looks like a fantastic tool! I'm taking the bull by the horns this year and am actually enjoying the new knowledge and challenge.
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    Re: Another Newbie Here

    What kind of "shock" are you using, we prefer liquid chlorine / bleach.
    It is either adding CH which you do not need, or CYA which you do need some of.
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    Re: Another Newbie Here

    I think it's aqua chem and the active ingredient is Dichlor. I bought the stuff at BJs. You're right, I don't need to add any more CH. I'll get some 8.5% bleach at the store this evening.
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    Re: Another Newbie Here

    Quote Originally Posted by unixfreak
    I think it's aqua chem and the active ingredient is Dichlor. I bought the stuff at BJs. You're right, I don't need to add any more CH. I'll get some 8.5% bleach at the store this evening.
    Dichlor adds CYA - lots of it! And since you need both... Just don't try to add all the CYA at once, or you'll shove FC through the roof.

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    Re: Another Newbie Here

    Remember that CYA takes a bit to show up in your tests, if you added stuff with a CYA component to it don't forget to factor that in if you go to add more or else you can end up with too much.
    Definitely read, and re-read pool school a few times, that will prevent you from spinning your wheels, especially if your going to shock the pool properly.
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    Re: Another Newbie Here

    Last night I added 8 lbs of borax and 10 lbs of baking soda and tested this morning. Here are the numbers:

    CL 0.5
    CYA 0
    TA 130
    PH 7.6

    The glaring number to me is the CYA. I was wrong about the type of shock that I was using. It's main active ingredient is calcium hyphochlorite. The brand is hth "super shock it".
    The chlorine pucks that I have are trichlor-triazinetrione. I put a couple of those in the skimmer today as well as a bag of that shock. I also swept the pool.

    Thanks so much for the help.
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    Re: Another Newbie Here

    It is going to take too long to get the CYA up using a couple pucks at a time. Best to add CYA separately up to 30ppm to protect the FC from the sun.

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    Re: Another Newbie Here

    Any recommendations on what stabilizer to purchase? 4 lbs. looks like a starting point.
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    Re: Another Newbie Here

    Quote Originally Posted by unixfreak
    Any recommendations on what stabilizer to purchase? 4 lbs. looks like a starting point.
    As long as it shows 98% or better concentration and no copper, whatever is cheapest.
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    Re: Another Newbie Here

    It's all the same stuff pretty much. It should be at least 96% CYA but most are that or greater.
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    Re: Another Newbie Here

    Numbers are looking better.
    CL 2
    CH 100
    PH 7.2
    TA 110
    I'm still not seeing the dot disappear. So I'm assuming that my CYA is either not giving me a reading yet ... or it's close to 0. I have not put any stabilizer in it yet. I'm shocking at night with 65% cal-hypo and leaving a trichlor puck in the skimmer. I'm seeing the bottom for the first time although it's still a little cloudy. Kids are swimming in it and having a blast.

    Thanks for all the help.
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