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    Removing Safety Cover without the tool?

    Just like the headline says....I inherited the pool but apparently not the tool for removing the safety cover. I can't find it anywhere. I will probably go buy a new one, but in the meantime does anyone have any experience taking a typical safety lock cover off a pool without the tool used to pop the loops off the grommet?
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    Re: Removing Safety Cover without the tool?

    I saw a video on U Tube where the guy simply kicked them off with his heel. Not sure how damaging that is to the springs/loops.
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    Re: Removing Safety Cover without the tool?

    I saw that video. Unfortunately, it didn't work for me.
    Why can't I just screw the grommet out of the ground? Does that risk snapping the grommet?
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    Re: Removing Safety Cover without the tool?

    Just order the tool. I am sure you could possible get them off with a flathead screwdriver, but there is A LOT of tension and I can't think of any truly safe way to do it without the tool. The tool is not anything highly sophisticated, you could probably make one easily with some steel pipe and a hacksaw even you really need one quickly.
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    Re: Removing Safety Cover without the tool?

    I did order one, but it's not arriving until next week. Didn't want to wait that long to get the cover off.
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    Re: Removing Safety Cover without the tool?

    Before I realized I actually did inherit one, I used a steel crowbar as well as a strong and thick screwdriver.
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    Re: Removing Safety Cover without the tool?

    i have the tool to remove it and i find it easier to just use a screwdriver to ease it to one side of the anchor and the pop it off.
    i should use the tool though to avoid scratched our stamped concrete tho.,
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    Re: Removing Safety Cover without the tool?

    If you are handy, you can make your own until yours comes in. Use a 3/4 copper pipe, measure 1/4-1/2in from end. Draw circle line around the pipe(stop at 2/3rds of diameter and take your lines straight down to end) then cut along the line. And sand it smooth. See the end of the picture
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    Re: Removing Safety Cover without the tool?

    Kick the spring with the heel of your boot. It's worse on your boot heels than on the springs. Don't even try it w/ sneakers.
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    Re: Removing Safety Cover without the tool?

    For anyone still following along or who might be in a similar predicament in the future...

    Method 1 - boot heel kicking: didn't much work for me. springs were too tight I think.
    Method 2 - screw driver: worked, but was painfully slow and I felt like I was about to damage the concrete. So I only took a few of the springs off and then stopped.
    Method 3 - build your own tool: didn't try this.

    In the end, I waited for the tool to come in and just used that. Once the cover was off, I came face to face with my new swamp monster...but I think that is a story for another thread.
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    Re: Removing Safety Cover without the tool?

    To add to this now that I think about it, to me, it is far easier to have two people on this task.
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    Re: Removing Safety Cover without the tool?

    So I know this is a bit of an old thread, but only one I could find related.

    I have the tool, but when I use it, it seems to really want to SCRATH the stamped concrete...is there a trick or a way to do this.

    Putting it on is fine, it is just the removal.

    Thanks in advance!
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    Re: Removing Safety Cover without the tool?

    Keep it centered and twist while it is centered. You go off the brass and all he** will break loose lol

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    Re: Removing Safety Cover without the tool?

    Quote Originally Posted by pooladdict View Post
    Keep it centered and twist while it is centered. You go off the brass and all he** will break loose lol
    I must have a bad tool, as this does not seem possible...but I will keep trying. Wife is ****** that I am scratching the crude out of the concrete.
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    Re: Removing Safety Cover without the tool?

    Happy wife, happy life!

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    Re: Removing Safety Cover without the tool?

    Could you dip or paint that plasticizer stuff on the end diameter of the pipe? You can pick it up at the hardware store for a few bucks...if it works, you're a hero...and if it doesn't, you tell wife you tried...I think you'd still get brownie points for taking action
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