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    Pool renderings

    Received these from the builder we are going to go with. Still not too late to change the design though so we are open to suggestions.

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    Hayward Ecostar
    Hayward Aquarite
    Hayward Sharkv
    Hayward Progrid DE48
    Raypac Heat pump R8350ti
    2" PVC
    vinyl over steps
    bench
    8' deep end
    3 returns minimum

    Haven't picked out pavers yet. Welcome to ideas/pictures on these as well. Will either go with Techo Bloc or Cambridge.
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    Re: Pool renderings

    nuclear:

    Looks like a nice setup. I don't see anything "gimmicky" that jumps out at me in your list. Don't see a pool light, though. If it were me, I would add that along with a 4th return.
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    Re: Pool renderings

    Didn't list everything as I am at work and don't have the contract with me. They include a basic 500w light.

    And I misspoke on the returns, there are 5. I meant to say 3 skimmers.


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    Re: Pool renderings

    The Ecostar is likely overkill since I do not see anything the would require varying amounts of water flow (waterfeatures, spas, etc).

    How much is your electricity? Might save a good bit of money just going with a smaller 2-speed pump.

    Any idea of the pool's volume? Going with the 60 sqft DE might be a good idea as well and not likely much more $.

    Are all skimmers and drains plumbed separately to the equipment pad? 3 skimmers seems kind of excessive ... you may need to run a large pump just to keep them all working well.
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    Re: Pool renderings

    Monster pool!!
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    Re: Pool renderings

    Looks nice, if it were me I would add a couple of extra return fittings what were backed with dummy pipes to allow the addition of nicheless LED lights later on if you want them.
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    Re: Pool renderings

    Quote Originally Posted by jblizzle
    The Ecostar is likely overkill since I do not see anything the would require varying amounts of water flow (waterfeatures, spas, etc).

    How much is your electricity? Might save a good bit of money just going with a smaller 2-speed pump.

    Any idea of the pool's volume? Going with the 60 sqft DE might be a good idea as well and not likely much more $.

    Are all skimmers and drains plumbed separately to the equipment pad? 3 skimmers seems kind of excessive ... you may need to run a large pump just to keep them all working well.
    You are correct, there are no other water features. The pump is what the builder supplies. Electric rates on Long Island are some of the highest in the country, but if you buy certain VSP's you get a $400 rebate from the power company.

    No clue what the volume would be. Would it be advantageous to go with the 60?

    Skimmers and drains are plumbed separately.

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    Re: Pool renderings

    Quote Originally Posted by Isaac-1
    Looks nice, if it were me I would add a couple of extra return fittings what were backed with dummy pipes to allow the addition of nicheless LED lights later on if you want them.
    Interesting idea.

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    Re: Pool renderings

    how deep does the pool get?

    I would estimate you are around 22k gallons. For that size pool, the minimum DE filter we would recommend is 60 sqft. This will reduce how often you have to clean the filter. But, for a shorter season, you might be fine with the smaller filter, just have to clean more often ... There should be < $75 difference between the 2 and the larger one should make life easier.

    With a $400 rebate, that makes the choice of a VS pump much more worthwhile ... we get a whopping $0 rebate where I am.
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    Re: Pool renderings

    8' in the deep end

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    Re: Pool renderings

    OK, my estimate of 22k was based on an average of 4' ... so you may be a little more than 22k and I would CERTAINLY then recommend at least the 60 sqft DE filter.
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    Re: Pool renderings

    jbliz beat me...

    Guessing here, but I think your pool is about 24000 gallons. As jbliz said, I would go with a larger DE filter, we would recommend a minimum of 68 sq. ft. DE filter for that volume pool.

    The superpump vs or the maxflo vs will likely work if you do not have high volume water features.
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    Re: Pool renderings

    I'll look into the 60sqft DE, builder is coming over our house tomorrow anyway.

    What are the reasons behind not going with the Ecostar?

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    Re: Pool renderings

    Quote Originally Posted by linen
    The superpump vs or the maxflo vs will likely work if you do not have high volume water features.
    True. But, wonder if they are too new to be recognized for a rebate? Or maybe the rebate is much less $ to not make it worth it initially.

    The Ecostar is a HUGE pump on high speed and you have no need to ever be running that high. They are also expensive. As linen mentioned, there are a couple much smaller VS pumps that are now available that would be cheaper, but not sure if the rebate changes that story.
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    Re: Pool renderings

    Just checked, rebate applies to all of the following Hayward pumps:

    Variable Speed Hayward 2.00 TriStar Energy Solution SP322063EEV Select either variable speed drive: SP3220VSC (Stand-Alone) or SP3220VSCAQL (for use with Hayward Pro Logic controller).
    Variable Speed Hayward 2.00 EcoStar SP3400VSP
    Variable Speed Hayward 1.50 Super Pump VS SP2600VSP
    Variable Speed Hayward 1.50 Max-Flo VS SP2300VSP
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    Re: Pool renderings

    Have you seen the treadtex liner material? It has just the slightest texture to it vs. regular liner surface BUT it makes all the difference in the slipperiness of the steps. IF i could do my liner over i would get it ALL made out of tread-tex and have no border, we slip n slide all over the shallow end trying to play volleyball.

    We chose the tread-tex pattern we liked, and that determined what choices we had for the rest of the liner to get them to match. We went with Blue Granite, it does not look like what it does in the picture below, it looks just like the blue granite liner material.

    http://stcyrpoolandspa.com/vinyl-liners/options/ bottom of that page are two examples
    http://elite.surfthepool.com/wp-content ... Liners.pdf page 31 shows more options in tread-tex.
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    Re: Pool renderings

    Would consider treadtex, but right now we are seriously thinking about getting a sandstone liner and I don't think it is available in that color.

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    Re: Pool renderings

    If it is a $400 rebate for all of those, I think the 1.5 Super Pump might be plenty of power at it is likely $200-300 cheaper than the Ecostar upfront.
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