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    Ready to start the fight again

    Last month I had to go out of town again and when I came back the pool was green (2nd year in a row)...I inspected my SWG and found that I needed a new cell...I am still waiting for it to arrive....

    In any case, I have the TFP test kit and am ready to start the battle....

    I only have a few questions for this year....

    Clorox bleach is now only sold in 8.25% concentration in this area, there have been some negative comments regarding its effectiveness on some other boards, is it as effective? If not, what would you recommend as a good substitute?

    I have changed the filters, but have to leave again from 5/11-14 and then 5/18-5/20, should I wait until I get back on 5/21 to begin chemically treating the pool, and just run the filter for the time being?

    Do the automatic filter cleaners (the one where you rest the filter on it and it turns and sprays into the pleats) do an effective job? The reason that I ask, is that I must clean 4 relatively large filters every time I change them out and was looking for a more efficient method. It currently takes me about an hour and a half to get these things clean and then overnight in dish detergent.

    Thanks in advance for your responses.
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    Re: Ready to start the fight again

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    I'm a newbie here and had a green pool on April 29th
    Now it's almost crystal clear and all I used was 6% bleach
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    Re: Ready to start the fight again

    All that's different about 8.25% is the concentration. Otherwise it's exactly the same stuff. Make sure to change the box in the pool calculator so your dosage amount is correct.
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    Re: Ready to start the fight again

    You do get a little less ppm per bottle for the same price. Wal-Mart appears to have 10% that is a little cheaper as some have reported.

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    Re: Ready to start the fight again

    My Walmart has 8.25% and another brand that is only 2.75% so be sure you find the percentage listed on the bottle. Some bottles don't list the concentration anywhere.
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    Re: Ready to start the fight again

    Quote Originally Posted by bigmoguls
    Some bottles don't list the concentration anywhere.
    And those are the one's you shouldn't buy
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    Re: Ready to start the fight again

    Quote Originally Posted by charsand
    Clorox bleach is now only sold in 8.25% concentration in this area, there have been some negative comments regarding its effectiveness on some other boards, is it as effective? If not, what would you recommend as a good substitute?
    It is amazing how these rumors propagate on the internet. The only way the 8.25% bleach would not be as effective as the 6% would be if the 8.25% bottle had degraded due to sitting on the shelf for quite some time. That is highly unlikely if you are purchasing the bleach from a grocery store, Wally World, or a warehouse club due to the high product turnover.

    As others have mentioned, the 8.25% bleach has a higher concentration of the same active ingredient (sodium hypochlorite) than the 6% bleach. To reach a target FC, you would use less of the 8.25% bleach than you would the 6%.

    Quote Originally Posted by charsand
    I have changed the filters, but have to leave again from 5/11-14 and then 5/18-5/20, should I wait until I get back on 5/21 to begin chemically treating the pool, and just run the filter for the time being?
    We really need to see some test results, in particular CYA, in order for us to provide the best advice in this situation. Also, do you have another family member or friend that could dose with bleach while you are gone? If so, that is your best bet. If not, there are still some options, depending on your test results. In any event, it is difficult to perform the shock process without someone there to tend to the pool a few times a day.
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    Re: Ready to start the fight again

    Finally finished shocking (I hope)....My numbers from yesterday were:

    FC 14
    CC .5
    TA 110
    CYA 15
    PH 8.2
    CH 80

    I added about 4 lbs of CYA in 2 socks last night...will check CYA again after sock empties in a few days

    I will be adding salt today and installing a new SWG...

    My water is clear, but I still have what appears to be dirt that settles near the drain area in the deep end. My Polaris quit working about a week to ten days ago and I'm waiting for the parts to fix it. Hopefully when that is running again, it will solve the dirt problem. I didn't lose any FC overnight and my CC is either 0 or .5, it's hard to tell.

    Should I keep at shock level for a few days while waiting for Polaris parts?

    Once the SWG and Polaris are functioning properly, I plan to tackle the rest of the water balancing.

    Are there any other suggestions or do you see any problems with my plan.
    Thanks
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    Re: Ready to start the fight again

    How did you test a CYA value of 15?
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    Re: Ready to start the fight again

    What was your OCLT?
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    Re: Ready to start the fight again

    I filled the CYA test tube to the top and could still barely see the black dot, so I guessed at 15.
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    Re: Ready to start the fight again

    My OCLT showed as no FC lost and CC of about .5
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    Re: Ready to start the fight again

    If your water is crystal clear, cc's .5 ppm or less and you lost no FC in the OCLT, you have completed the shock process and can let FC come down to normal range about 3-5 ppm.

    Can you vac with a manual vac and keep the dirt out?
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    Re: Ready to start the fight again

    I don't have a manual vac....I figured I would just wait for my Polaris rebuild kit and go from there...
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    Re: Ready to start the fight again

    Just a progress report.....

    It took 18 days (6/4 to 6/22) and 126 jugs of 8.25% bleach to turn my green swamp (I had frogs and ducks) into a crystal clear pool. I ran the filter 24/7, changed out the cartridges after the first week and brushed the entire pool about 4-5 times per day....

    The wrong polaris rebuild kit was sent in error and now I should be getting it on 7/3....that should finish it up....
    Charlie

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