Become a TFP Supporter Pool Math Forum Rules Pool School
Results 1 to 11 of 11

Thread: Beginning Conversion Question

  1. Back To Top    #1

    Beginning Conversion Question

    I am new to the forum. We have a 30,000 gallon in-ground pool and have been using Baquacil for approx. 10 years. (We have well water, if that makes a difference.) As I've read in other posts, the Baquacil worked great for quite a few years. We had no problems maintaining it for the first 7 years or so, but for the past 3 or 4 years, we have struggled to keep it right. Main problem is with what I think is mustard algae; had sand changed last year, and can usually clear up any other problems like cloudy water, etc. After a lot of thought, talking with others and reading posts in this forum, we've decided to covert to chlorine and purchase a SWG.

    I have read and printed the 'Convert Your Baqua Pool to Chlorine' information in the Pool School section and ordered one of the recommended test kits, which came in today. I called the company where we get our pool supplies and told them that we would like to convert; they were also the ones who installed the pool. She sent a one page instruction sheet that has several steps after the pH adjustment but prior to adding the Chlorine. The sheet that they sent says:
    1. Adjust the pH to 6.8 - 7.0 (in highly buffered pools, try to get pH as close to 7 as possible, avoiding excessive acid addition).
    2. Add four pounds of Pool Breeze Non-Chlorine Shock per 10,000 gallon of pool water.
    3. Add a chlorine compatible chelating agent.
    4. Filter continuously for 48 hours.
    5. After 48 hours, readjust pH to 7.2 - 7.8.
    Then it starts directions for 'shock-chlorinating' the pool daily, preferably in the evening.

    My question is whether it's necessary to do these steps after the pH adjustment prior to starting what the Pool School recommends? If they are not necessary, I don't want to do them, and your directions seem very clear and achieve what appears to be great results. Any comments or suggestions will be much appreciated. Thank you.
    Haslett, MI
    20'x48" above ground Summer Escapes with side wall skimmer

  2. Back To Top    #2
    linen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Twin Cities, MN
    Posts
    8,649

    Re: Beginning Conversion Question

    Welcome to tfp, cindy253

    Our instructions have worked time and time again. It is an intense process, but you will done with it much faster than doing it that pool store way.
    TFP Expert who uses Pool School and my TF100 test kit along with PoolMath for my: Round 11K gallon AGP with deep end, 20" sand filter, Matrix 1hp 2spd, 6 2ftX20ft solar panels (and solar cover!), Intex SWCG (copper bars disconnected) and a Rubadub hot tub (chlorine). The SLAM process is not finished until: 1. CC < 0.5 ppm, 2. An OCLT < 1.0 ppm and, 3. The water is crystal clear.

  3. Back To Top    #3
    Vette's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Ohio
    Posts
    404

    Re: Beginning Conversion Question

    Please take lots of pics
    11,700 gallon 21' round 54" deep all-resin AGP - June 2012
    Waterway 1HP 2-speed pump / 100 sq ft cartridge filter
    Hayward 150,000btu Natural Gas heater
    I use and recommend the TF-100 for testing

  4. Back To Top    #4
    Richard320's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    San Dimas, CA (LA County)
    Posts
    18,768

    Re: Beginning Conversion Question

    Scroll through This forum and look for That means pictures.

    Reading others' conversion stories (can I get an A-men?) and seeing the pictures should encourage you to just go the bleach route. You'll be using a bunch of it, so you might want to do a little comparison shopping. Sometimes the 12.5% stuff from a pool store or hardware store is a better deal per %-oz than Chlorox at the warehouse stores.

    I eagerly await the pictures.
    16K freeform gunite with spa; Pentair 4000 DE filter; Century Whisperflow 1 HP; Pentair Minimax heater.
    Troublefree does not mean Maintenancefree. It's like brushing your teeth: You can spend a couple minutes a day and pennies a week or go to the dentist once a year and spend several thousand dollars.
    A pool is like a pet - you have to feed it every day, even the days you don't want to play with it!

  5. Back To Top    #5

    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Denton, TX
    Posts
    5,061

    Re: Beginning Conversion Question

    Welcome to TFP!

    You will be much happier with your water situation once you have converted over from baq.

  6. Back To Top    #6
    Smykowski's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Gurnee, IL (North Suburban Chi-town)
    Posts
    3,065

    Re: Beginning Conversion Question

    Just use the TFP instructions, ignore the pool store.

    Oh yeah...Lots. Of. Pics.
    33' round, 23,000 gal AG vinyl , 1HP 2spd PowerFlo Matrix downsized with 3/4HP impeller (X2), Hayward S180T 150# sand filter (X2), Hayward H250 NG heater Pool Store year 1 - $850 for 2 months; Pool Store year 2 - $440 for 2 months, TFPC year 1 - $170 for 4 months; TFPC year 2 - $95 for 4.5 months
    The most important article on this site - The ABCs of Pool Water Chemistry

  7. Back To Top    #7
    Administrator Leebo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Eastern Ohio
    Posts
    6,599

    Re: Beginning Conversion Question

    Ignore their directions....they add extra work. Their next step if you follow their theory will be taking your water in for testing as your pool will be green still. They will then suggest more "shock"....and the cycle begins. Follow the pool school article and you'll be fine. Their "pool breeze shock" is just Cal-Hypo. Save a few bucks and go with bleach. We're here for any questions!

    When was the last time you added Baquail Sanatizer??

  8. Back To Top    #8

    Re: Beginning Conversion Question

    Thanks so much for the responses and for the warm welcome. I had looked at the pics and read the comments in the threads that I had made my way through and had a pretty good feeling that the TFP directions were the right way to go. I guess that I just needed that extra bit of reassurance that it was okay to not follow the pool store's instruction sheet.

    Thank you for the suggestion about comparing the pool store prices of the 12.5% versus Chlorox per %-oz, Richard320. That makes sense.

    We haven't put any chemicals in since probably October, so no Baquacil Sanitizer since then, Leebo. I've been sort of putting off starting up with the chemicals while we made the decision by reading this forum and talking with friends who've converted. We do clean it year-round pretty regularly with an Aquabot to keep most of the debris out and to help 'sweep up' the algae from the pool floor and sides, though it doesn't get 100%.

    I will check the pH tomorrow and see where we are to get started, and will take photos. Thank you again.
    Haslett, MI
    20'x48" above ground Summer Escapes with side wall skimmer

  9. Back To Top    #9
    Administrator Leebo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Eastern Ohio
    Posts
    6,599

    Re: Beginning Conversion Question

    If you hadn't added any Baquacil since October, then odds say that the levels will be VERY low. This should result in your favor. The less Baquacil the Chlorine has to "kill off"....the quicker it can work on cleaning up the pool.

    As for the pool stores suggestion.....
    Following their guidelines, the first dose of "shock" you'll add will raise your FC level up to about 35ish. Your pool will immediately turn a nasty greenish color (as all do once you first add chlorine) and the chlorine will QUICKLY be consumed. Odds say in about 20minutes you could test your FC level....and it will be around zero. You will then run the pump for the next two days trying to filter out this green.....with zero chlorine. The TFP process has you continue to add chlorine the entire time to stay at a 15FC level, speeding up the swap and not allowing anything the chance to grow in your water.

    First swap of the year....and you've picked a good time to do it. You'll quickly enjoy the benefits of chlorine over the expense of Baquacil.

  10. Back To Top    #10
    Patrick_B's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Midland TX
    Posts
    15,001

    Re: Beginning Conversion Question

    Cindy, just FYI...Walmart now has 8.25% bleach and it is really nice to have as an option. Our pool stores here don't carry liquid of any kind, and I never trust that it is fresh at the hardware stores. Best of luck on the conversion. Let us know how it goes.
    TFP Moderator
    Essential Links:
    ABC's Of Pool Chemistry, Test Kits, SLAM Your Pool
    28K Gal IG FreeForm, CLI Quartz, Pentair 36"SF & VS Pump, Dolphin M5, Rheem

  11. Back To Top    #11

    Re: Beginning Conversion Question

    Thank you again for your comments and suggestions, Leebo. I started the process of adding the bleach one week ago today after getting the pH to the right level. Thank you too, Brushpup, for the info about the 8.25% at Walmart; I had found it there and at several grocery stores, so that is what I've been using. Our pool store didn't have any of the 12.5% either; we live in a very small, rural area.

    I have taken photos every day, and it seems to be coming along. We had a lot of the algae on the floor and sides of the pool, (rust colored, but I'm thinking that it is mustard algae, as I mentioned in my first post), so that has 'eaten up' a lot of the chlorine. I will try to post photos hopefully this weekend, but trying to get ready for vacation and extra-busy at work...
    Haslett, MI
    20'x48" above ground Summer Escapes with side wall skimmer

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •