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    Newbie needs major help!

    Hi. I have lurked all winter and was really excited to open the pool this year with my new found knowlegde. I just recieved my test kit...the tf-50 -today and couldn't wait to test my water the right way. Well, I don't think it likes me very much. First thing I did was my CYA. It showed up a NADA. Stayed clear as a bell the whole way through....three times. I figured since I have been "pool stored" up until now(pucks in skimmer, bags and bags of "shock"), there should surely be high levels of cya in there! Atleast something! We lowered to below skimmer line when we closed up for the winter and I have backwashed four times so far in the past week while cleaning the brownish green mess I opened up to. ( winter cover developed nasty holes and crud leaked in). Why wouldn't I have any sort of cya reading?

    While reading up and learning what I can, I have seen people with same sized pools as I and dealing with same type mess and the wild amount of bleach they have had to dump in their pools. So...while I waited for my test kit to arrive, I used my other drop kit and got a reading a zero for FC when I opened. I took it upon myself to start adding bleach so it didn't get worse(my water) and it IS nice and clean now although not bright and sparkly. It's a little cloudy now. Throughout a week, I added a total of eight 128oz jugs of bleach. With oto drop test, it still read at a 5 at the dark yellow earlier today.

    Now, when I used my brand spankin new test kit to test my chlorine, it would NOT change from pink! I actually sat there and counted those drops to 200. It cannot be right. I gave up and came here after getting overly frustrated(and got even more frustrated trying to figure HOW to post, lol). I tried it twice actually....gave up the second time at 100. Surely I don't have a fc reading of a billion? It doesn't SMELL like bleach, there's no smell at all actually....it DID smell like a swamp when we took the cover off! What could I have done wrong with the chlorine test? Filled it to 10, added heaping scoop of powder, swirled.... started to add drops as I swirled..count, count, count, etc....PINK? Ugh.

    I bragged and bragged about everything I've learned, I don't want to feel like an idiot now, lol. And... I reeeeeaallly hate to ask questions so this is hard for me but one thing I love about this forum is how nice and helpful everyone is. So...help? I might not be able to check back until tomorrow as it's dinner time and just me and my daughter here tonight and I have tons of mommy stuff to do.
    18x33 15000 gallon vinyl above ground. Tagelus Deluxe sand filter. Dynamo pump. Tf-50 test kit.

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    Re: Newbie needs major help!

    Welcome to tfp, mbishop

    I don't think you have a FC reading of a billion. In fact your OTO chlorine test, the one that is dark yellow, is suggesting your Total chlorine level is between 5 and 15 ppm.

    Are you certain when you add the drops to the FAS-DPD test that you are using R-0871 reagent?
    TFP Expert who uses Pool School and my TF100 test kit along with PoolMath for my: Round 11K gallon AGP with deep end, 20" sand filter, Matrix 1hp 2spd, 6 2ftX20ft solar panels (and solar cover!), Intex SWCG (copper bars disconnected) and a Rubadub hot tub (chlorine). The SLAM process is not finished until: 1. CC < 0.5 ppm, 2. An OCLT < 1.0 ppm and, 3. The water is crystal clear.

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    Re: Newbie needs major help!

    Thank you for the welcome. Yes, I am sure I used the correct one. I just checked again upon your mention and it's right.
    18x33 15000 gallon vinyl above ground. Tagelus Deluxe sand filter. Dynamo pump. Tf-50 test kit.

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    It sounds like you are doing the FAS-DPD test correctly...but humor me and review the extended test kit directions just to be sure you are not missing something.
    TFP Expert who uses Pool School and my TF100 test kit along with PoolMath for my: Round 11K gallon AGP with deep end, 20" sand filter, Matrix 1hp 2spd, 6 2ftX20ft solar panels (and solar cover!), Intex SWCG (copper bars disconnected) and a Rubadub hot tub (chlorine). The SLAM process is not finished until: 1. CC < 0.5 ppm, 2. An OCLT < 1.0 ppm and, 3. The water is crystal clear.

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    Re: Newbie needs major help!

    Ok...I did it again ...still it stays bright pink. Did the two level scoops instead of the heaping scoop this time. Maybe I got a bad one? I counted to 160 and the reagent is getting pretty low already. Never changed from the bright pink. What do you think about my cya? Any possible way I lost everything I put in from the past three years by way of pucks and powdered "shock"? Could I really be at zero? Everything I have read lead me to believe I would be through the roof on that one. I am stumped.
    18x33 15000 gallon vinyl above ground. Tagelus Deluxe sand filter. Dynamo pump. Tf-50 test kit.

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    Re: Newbie needs major help!

    CYA has a way of disappearing over the winter. I can't explain how or why, but it happens.
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    Re: Newbie needs major help!

    If you had that much chlorine the OTO test would turn brownish rather than yellow. There is a testing error when you are performing the FAS/DPD test.

    1. What kit do you have?

    2. How does your water look?
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    Re: Newbie needs major help!

    how much water are you using for the FC test?
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    I used 10ml of pool water for the Fc test. I followed the directions exactly every time I tried it. I did it again about 5 minutes ago with same results. Stays pink...I counted up to 78 and stopped. Used my oto and it read at 3. I REALLY want precise readings! That's why i ordered it....ugh. I am about to start pulling hair out. Also retested cya because I read low water temperature 'might' give a low reading. It was chilly yesterday so I warmed some up today... It doesn't. Still clear as a bell. So will go add some pucks since I have so many left over from last year. The water looks good although a little dull looking. Doesn't have that sparkle I see in other's pictures on here though.
    18x33 15000 gallon vinyl above ground. Tagelus Deluxe sand filter. Dynamo pump. Tf-50 test kit.

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    Re: Newbie needs major help!

    Quote Originally Posted by duraleigh
    1. What kit do you have?
    She has the TF-50 (mentioned in the first post).
    TFP Expert who uses Pool School and my TF100 test kit along with PoolMath for my: Round 11K gallon AGP with deep end, 20" sand filter, Matrix 1hp 2spd, 6 2ftX20ft solar panels (and solar cover!), Intex SWCG (copper bars disconnected) and a Rubadub hot tub (chlorine). The SLAM process is not finished until: 1. CC < 0.5 ppm, 2. An OCLT < 1.0 ppm and, 3. The water is crystal clear.

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    Re: Newbie needs major help!

    Man this is a tough one.

    Grab your smart phone and video doing the test. Upload to photobucket. Post link.

    That's the only way we are going to get to the bottom.

    Something is wrong, either you are doing something wrong of the reagent is bad.
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