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Thread: Polaris 360 Setup

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    Re: How is Polaris 360 different from Polaris 380?

    I just bought a 360 to replace a total waste of pool cleaner aka "Hayward" vibrational....

    I thought I could just plug the 360 into my dedicated return line and have at it. But I've now seen the light and see it is a "pressure side" cleaner.

    Can it run on a return line? Thank you!
    13,500g salt water pool with spa. 2 stage Hayward Pump. MX-8 suction side cleaner.
    2 drains, 1 skimmer, 1 dedicated cleaner line. 6 pressure returns. Dedicated pump for 3 water features.
    Jets in the spa that don't work worth a ****, currently experiencing pressure issues in the pool and at work:)

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    Polaris 360 Setup

    Hello all. Just bought a 360 and hope I can use it.

    I don't have a dedicated booster pump.

    I do have:
    1 skimmer return
    1 dedicated return line that I ran my old cleaner from
    6 pressure jets
    2 drains
    13,000 gallons
    SWS
    Hayward two speed pump 2.4/.28 BHP; 1.5/.18 FRHP/1.60SF - whatever this means

    Can I run the 360 on the return line?

    THANK YOU!!
    13,500g salt water pool with spa. 2 stage Hayward Pump. MX-8 suction side cleaner.
    2 drains, 1 skimmer, 1 dedicated cleaner line. 6 pressure returns. Dedicated pump for 3 water features.
    Jets in the spa that don't work worth a ****, currently experiencing pressure issues in the pool and at work:)

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    Re: Polaris 360 Setup

    The Polaris 360 operates without a booster pump, so if you have a dedicated return then you should be able to run it. You'll probably have to be able to turn the rest of the returns off or at least restrict them greatly for it to work, but if you had a pressure side cleaner in the past that shouldn't be a problem.
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    Re: Polaris 360 Setup

    I plugged it in to the dedicated return line and it did nothing. It would seem that I would need to reverse something internally if it is designed to work with pressure vs return flow.

    I'm sure I'm not thinking about this right.

    Thank you for the help.
    13,500g salt water pool with spa. 2 stage Hayward Pump. MX-8 suction side cleaner.
    2 drains, 1 skimmer, 1 dedicated cleaner line. 6 pressure returns. Dedicated pump for 3 water features.
    Jets in the spa that don't work worth a ****, currently experiencing pressure issues in the pool and at work:)

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    Re: Polaris 360 Setup

    The term Return means flow that is returning to the pool from the pump/filter. From the skimmer/main drain to the pump is the suction side. What you described sounds like a suction side.
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    Re: Polaris 360 Setup

    Yes. The suction side. Can the 360 work for that?
    Thank you Dave!
    Brett
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    2 drains, 1 skimmer, 1 dedicated cleaner line. 6 pressure returns. Dedicated pump for 3 water features.
    Jets in the spa that don't work worth a ****, currently experiencing pressure issues in the pool and at work:)

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    Re: Polaris 360 Setup

    No, the 360 is a pressure side cleaner. You should be able to hook it up to a return and use it. You can probably convert the old suction port over to a pressure port without too much problem if it's plumbed back to the pad.

    Post a pic and we can give some ideas.
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    You can stop SLAMing your pool when you pass the OCLT (You lose 1ppm or less FC overnight, & You have .5ppm CC's or less) & your water is clear.

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    Re: Polaris 360 Setup

    I hate being a NOOB! But I'm trying/learning I guess.
    Thank you for the help.
    Here is a picture. Only question is, is doing this safe and efficient?
    Thanks a ton Dave, you are very helpful.
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    13,500g salt water pool with spa. 2 stage Hayward Pump. MX-8 suction side cleaner.
    2 drains, 1 skimmer, 1 dedicated cleaner line. 6 pressure returns. Dedicated pump for 3 water features.
    Jets in the spa that don't work worth a ****, currently experiencing pressure issues in the pool and at work:)

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    Re: Polaris 360 Setup

    Your system is more complicated than you initially indicated. Can you take a pic of the main pump area and label the plumbing where it comes from and where it goes to?

    Also, what's the other pump for? Spa, water features, etc.?
    Dave J. TFP Moderator
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    Pool School ----- Pool Math ----- TF-Test Kit
    You can stop SLAMing your pool when you pass the OCLT (You lose 1ppm or less FC overnight, & You have .5ppm CC's or less) & your water is clear.

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    Re: Polaris 360 Setup

    Here is a better image from on top of the unit.
    From the left...
    A dedicated pump to three waterfalls
    The main pump with intakes/outtakes to a spa w/ heater
    Cartridge Filter
    Heater
    There are two drains, one skimmer and one dedicated suction line.
    There are 6 pressure outlets to the pool and about 10 or so to the spa.
    Oh, and an UltraPure water cleaner that no one seems to know how to operate, so it is unplugged. But I would love to learn how to make sure it is on...

    You are the bomb!!! Thank you so much for your help.
    Brett
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    13,500g salt water pool with spa. 2 stage Hayward Pump. MX-8 suction side cleaner.
    2 drains, 1 skimmer, 1 dedicated cleaner line. 6 pressure returns. Dedicated pump for 3 water features.
    Jets in the spa that don't work worth a ****, currently experiencing pressure issues in the pool and at work:)

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    Re: Polaris 360 Setup

    Looking at the piping from the two 3-way valves right below the filter. Which is the dedicated suction line?
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    Pool School ----- Pool Math ----- TF-Test Kit
    You can stop SLAMing your pool when you pass the OCLT (You lose 1ppm or less FC overnight, & You have .5ppm CC's or less) & your water is clear.

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    Re: Polaris 360 Setup

    How can I find out?
    13,500g salt water pool with spa. 2 stage Hayward Pump. MX-8 suction side cleaner.
    2 drains, 1 skimmer, 1 dedicated cleaner line. 6 pressure returns. Dedicated pump for 3 water features.
    Jets in the spa that don't work worth a ****, currently experiencing pressure issues in the pool and at work:)

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    Re: Polaris 360 Setup

    Dave,

    Looking at the two different pics it looks like the valve closest to the black pump is open and the pipe coming out its right side might be the main suction. The other valve right before it looks to be partially open but not sure it is not fully perpendicular to the other two possible intake pipes. You are way more of a expert than I am.

    What a maze of pipes. That is quite a setup. 3 water falls man that is killer.


    Here is what I found in the Ultrapure manual.

    Pool Water Testing Test the water regularly using a water test kit.
    Test Bromine Ideal Range 2.0 ppm
    Free Available (FAC) 1.0 ppm (minimum) Total Chlorine (TC) Up to 0.5 ppm above the FAC reading pH 7.2 – 7.8
    Total Alkalinity (TA) 80 – 120 ppm Calcium Hardness (CH) 200 – 300 ppm Total Dissolved Solids (TDS) 300 – 1200 ppm

    Testing For UltraPure™Automatic Water Cleaner™ Efficacy USING THE ULTRAPURE™ AUTOMATIC WATER CLEANER™ AND CHLORINE/SALT OR,AN ALGAECIDE AND CHLORINE

    1.Use a DPD Test Kit to periodically test for Free Available Chlorine (FAC) and Total Chlorine (TC). As long as the difference between TC and FAC is less than 0.5 ppm,the UltraPure™us doing its job (i.e.removing contaminants which form combines and use up chlorine).

    2.Using UltraPure™,a Mineral Based Biostat or an Algaecide and Chlorine. Test for TC only.The TC level should be maintained at about half the normal (regional) Chlorine level (TC = 1.0 – 3.0 ppm).

    3.When products contain sequestering agents,they tend to mask the FAC level. Only the TC reading is valid.

    4.Periodically check the pH level and maintain it between 7.2 – 7.8

    I have seen in most of the threads here ozone is a waste of money. That is what the Ultrapure is.

    Jerry

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    Re: Polaris 360 Setup

    You obviously have an automation system. Is there a mode for cleaner? If it is, turn it on and see which actuator moves. Report back.
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    Re: Polaris 360 Setup

    Hello Dave. I've been out of town and wanted to check the actuator.

    Nothing moves when I hit the cleaner button. It comes on, but no movement of the valves.
    13,500g salt water pool with spa. 2 stage Hayward Pump. MX-8 suction side cleaner.
    2 drains, 1 skimmer, 1 dedicated cleaner line. 6 pressure returns. Dedicated pump for 3 water features.
    Jets in the spa that don't work worth a ****, currently experiencing pressure issues in the pool and at work:)

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    Re: Polaris 360 Setup

    There's obviously a dedicated return that I can't see in the pictures.
    Dave J. TFP Moderator
    24' x 52" Round AGP. 1.5hp Dynamo pump. 24" Pentair Sand Dollar Filter. 45MHP2(3GPD) Stenner Peristaltic Pump
    Pool School ----- Pool Math ----- TF-Test Kit
    You can stop SLAMing your pool when you pass the OCLT (You lose 1ppm or less FC overnight, & You have .5ppm CC's or less) & your water is clear.

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    Re: Polaris 360 Setup

    So if there is, you can just run that dedicated return to the pressure side and all is good?

    It would seem you could put more lines than were intended on one side vs the other and cause problems? Or it might not be enough to make any difference.

    Is that what you had in mind?

    You da man! Thanks.
    13,500g salt water pool with spa. 2 stage Hayward Pump. MX-8 suction side cleaner.
    2 drains, 1 skimmer, 1 dedicated cleaner line. 6 pressure returns. Dedicated pump for 3 water features.
    Jets in the spa that don't work worth a ****, currently experiencing pressure issues in the pool and at work:)

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    Re: Polaris 360 Setup

    Yeah, that's what I had in mind.
    Dave J. TFP Moderator
    24' x 52" Round AGP. 1.5hp Dynamo pump. 24" Pentair Sand Dollar Filter. 45MHP2(3GPD) Stenner Peristaltic Pump
    Pool School ----- Pool Math ----- TF-Test Kit
    You can stop SLAMing your pool when you pass the OCLT (You lose 1ppm or less FC overnight, & You have .5ppm CC's or less) & your water is clear.

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    Re: Polaris 360 Setup

    It might just be easier to send back the 360 and get the Baracuda MX8

    I really appreciate your help.

    I probably need to get someone out here to label my valves...

    There are still questions I have.

    Wy don't I have bubbles any more when I turn the spa on. There is a "open" tube that points down that used to suck air in and it was audible, but now there is nothing. Thought a mouse or something went down there and stopped it up, but that is unlikely.

    Have a great Sunday, sir!
    13,500g salt water pool with spa. 2 stage Hayward Pump. MX-8 suction side cleaner.
    2 drains, 1 skimmer, 1 dedicated cleaner line. 6 pressure returns. Dedicated pump for 3 water features.
    Jets in the spa that don't work worth a ****, currently experiencing pressure issues in the pool and at work:)

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