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    From Vinyl to pebble tech ?? Possible??

    May be a far out idea but figured I would ask if anyone has done it or knows of the possibilities on doing it ? I have to replace my liner most likely by next season and was planning on doing a tract system at the water line where 2 rows of tile would sit and then the liner 6-8" below the water line (helps with liner sun wear) , anyhow, thats looking at 5-6K to have done and was curious if modifying my pool into a pebble tech type pool and eliminating the liner all together, we've always wanted a hard surface (non-liner) pool for quite some time so our dogs can swim and go in/out without having to worry about tearing the liner up...unfortunatly every home we bought so far had a inground pool already there with a liner we plan on being in this home for 15-20 years or so (GUS willing) so I figured now would be the time to ask and at least see the pros/cons of such a modification? Its sounds possible, I mean the hole is already there, piping is ran...how hard can it be ???
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    Re: From Vinyl to pebble tech ?? Possible??

    bro you're looking at the price of an entirely new pool

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    Re: From Vinyl to pebble tech ?? Possible??

    Quote Originally Posted by DBfan187
    bro you're looking at the price of an entirely new pool
    Ya think ?? , seems like the hard part is already done...Humm
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    Re: From Vinyl to pebble tech ?? Possible??

    Last fall I called a large pool installer in Charlotte and posed this same question. Our liner is living on borrowed time, the shallow end getting the worse of the wear. Blame it on that basketball goal. I was thinking maybe get rid of the liner replace it with a hard surface. They did not want to talk to me about whether or not this could be done. Just said they would have to destroy so much of the existing pool, you should just replace it.

    Not sure if this is true but the pool is wedged between the house and poolhouse so I just gave up. I removed the winter cover 2 weeks ago and she is blue & sparkly so I guess we are good for now.
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    Re: From Vinyl to pebble tech ?? Possible??

    Quote Originally Posted by Saltypool
    Last fall I called a large pool installer in Charlotte and posed this same question. Our liner is living on borrowed time, the shallow end getting the worse of the wear. Blame it on that basketball goal. I was thinking maybe get rid of the liner replace it with a hard surface. They did not want to talk to me about whether or not this could be done. Just said they would have to destroy so much of the existing pool, you should just replace it.

    Not sure if this is true but the pool is wedged between the house and poolhouse so I just gave up. I removed the winter cover 2 weeks ago and she is blue & sparkly so I guess we are good for now.
    Humm.. Darn the bad luck, it just seems like it wouldnt be so bad and I bet the market for it would be very large if someone came out with it as an option...Opened the pool already in this area huh, a bit chilly still for us, no heater (yet)..still have to replumb everything before this season...should be starting the project in a week or 2-3....Cant wait to get er done though.....
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    Re: From Vinyl to pebble tech ?? Possible??

    a job my friend did for a customer http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set= ... 010&type=3

    it's essentially a new pool

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    Re: From Vinyl to pebble tech ?? Possible??

    We do have a heater but it is still bypassed & drained. Until we get out of this freezing 50-60 degree weather there is no use to run the heater. We do have a solar cover but I'm afraid this cold weather will make it brittle. Where is our hot weather??
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    Re: From Vinyl to pebble tech ?? Possible??

    Quote Originally Posted by DBfan187
    a job my friend did for a customer http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set= ... 010&type=3

    it's essentially a new pool
    Great Pics , so it IS possible ...ya just need to find the right contractor experienced and willing to attack the task at hand...That pool is exactly like my pool and EXACTLY what I was thinking it would be when it would be done....Any Idea if the price of the conversion was WAY high, close to the price of a whole new pool like some are saying ??
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    Re: From Vinyl to pebble tech ?? Possible??

    it's whole new pool, you're going from vinyl to shotcrete/gunite with a plaster finish

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    Re: From Vinyl to pebble tech ?? Possible??

    Quote Originally Posted by DBfan187
    it's whole new pool, you're going from vinyl to shotcrete/gunite with a plaster finish
    Yep, but what could it possibly be 10,15-20K for the basic conversion....If its what you want for the next 20+ years I would say its worth looking in to
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    Re: From Vinyl to pebble tech ?? Possible??

    I would expect it to cost quite a bit more than that for a pool your size. If you could get that done for 30K you would be doing amazingly well. 40K or higher is more likely, even more in some areas.
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    Re: From Vinyl to pebble tech ?? Possible??

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonLion
    I would expect it to cost quite a bit more than that for a pool your size. If you could get that done for 30K you would be doing amazingly well. 40K or higher is more likely, even more in some areas.
    No Kidding HUH ...Darn, I may be in the wrong business...
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    Re: From Vinyl to pebble tech ?? Possible??

    You have to remember that a hard surface pool has to not flex which requires a very study substrate. Vinyl is more forgiving in that respect.

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    Re: From Vinyl to pebble tech ?? Possible??

    The prices that are being thrown around are probably pretty close. You are building a complete pool from scratch in the existing hole. Some new deck will have to be poured and possibly some old deck removed to get to existing plumbing.
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    Re: From Vinyl to pebble tech ?? Possible??

    Humm, Looks like we may have to settle for the upper tile track type system with a cool looking liner....and continue to monitor the pups in/out of the pool, but at least we have a 6' wide fiberglass step entry to continue training the dogs to swim to and from
    Thanks for all the input...
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