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    pipe size

    I see pools using 2" and some using 1.5" runs to and from the pool to the pump.

    Is there a standard or formula which to use?

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    Re: pipe size

    It depends on the water flow rates and pipe length. For most in-ground pools, I would advise against 1.5 inch pipe.

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    Re: pipe size

    Well the pump will be located 30' from the pool it is about 5700 gallons,

    If the pool is not supposed to turn more than once in 6 hours or in this case 1,000 gal an hour I thought 1.5 might be big enough.

    How do I calculate the correct pipe size?

    I read 80gpm on 1.5"
    125gpm on 2"

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    Re: pipe size

    Quote Originally Posted by Nova13
    I read 80gpm on 1.5"
    125gpm on 2"
    From Hydraulics 101...to keep the flow rate below 6 ft/sec, 1.5" pipe should have a maximum of 38 gpm and 2" pipe should have a maximum of 63 gpm.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nova13
    If the pool is not supposed to turn more than once in 6 hours or in this case 1,000 gal an hour I thought 1.5 might be big enough.
    Is this a nsp requirement? I think you will have a hard time moving water at that low flow rate with conventional pool pumps...a variable speed might work...though they are pricey.
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    Re: pipe size

    I have a 1.5hp single speed I want to use, but about 30-35gpm will be diverted to solar.

    The balance to the pool, don't care about the pipe cost difference just want what will work best.

    based on those flow rates I need 2" it sounds like

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    Re: pipe size

    Looking at those pump flow rates maybe I should just sell the 1.5HP,

    Since it's kinda a small pool maybe a 3/4HP to do the pool and a 1/2hp for solar.

    What about that idea?

    I need about 30-35gpm for solar on a story roof 7 panels @ 4gpm each plus the loos of plumbing

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    Re: pipe size

    Is your solar a separate loop from pool? Most of the people I have read about use the same pump for both solar and pool. Also I am petty unclear but my impression is that you don't lose flow rate in a simple linear number per panel... You have a certain amount of head that gets added by your solar which impacts overall flow rates.

    Might be good to look into 2 speed pumps also.

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    I think the two pump idea won't work, I'm going to look at selling 1.5hp jacuzzi and sizing out a new 3/4hp pump maybe a 1/2hp

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    Re: pipe size

    I use a 1hp 2 speed with my solar. I run on high when I divert to the solar and low when I do not want solar ... like in the winter. A 2 speed would be a cheaper route than having 2 pumps both initially and fit electricity.

    As far as pipe size, bigger is better as you will have lower head loss and thus higher flow rates.

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    Re: pipe size

    Spoke to tech support at lifeguard,

    He said to go 2"

    Also recommended a R175316 HP SeaFlow 230V I found one at $485.

    Any place I should try for a better price?

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    Re: pipe size

    You will be much better off with a two speed pump, which can be found around/below that price.
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    Re: pipe size

    I agree with JL.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nova13
    Also recommended a R175316 HP SeaFlow 230V I found one at $485.
    That looks like it is likely a Pentair superflo model: SF-NI-1/2FE. If it is, it is overpiced compared to other online sources, one of which is: http://www.poolsupplyworld.com/super...htm?a=%20R|102.

    I too would probably still go for a two speed, and run on low most of the time for the nsp. Maybe something like the Pentair superflo 2-speed 341111 (SF-N2-3/4A), see: http://pentairpool.com/pool-owner/pr...-pumps-165.htm. Might be had for less than $500.
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    Re: pipe size

    Well what 1/2HP pump is 220V with 2" in/out in two speed about 30/60 gpm.

    Under say $500

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nova13
    Well what 1/2HP pump is 220V with 2" in/out in two speed about 30/60 gpm.

    Under say $500
    The one I pointed you to above includes 2" external slip fitting unions. One place from googling is $450 shipped:http://www.swimmingpoolsetc.com/pent...ndpoolpump.htm (I have not bought from this store). I would guess it is available other places too.
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    Re: pipe size

    I see that but the specs are
    Voltage: 115
    Full Load Amps: 14.6/4.7

    I was trying to find 220v at about 6amps max

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    Re: pipe size

    You want the 1 HP Superflo 2 speed. SF-N2-1A - 230v

    It will produce about 70 GPM on high and 35 GPM on low for typical 2" plumbing.
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    Re: pipe size

    oops sorry about missing that...mas has got you covered
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    Re: pipe size

    Quote Originally Posted by mas985
    You want the 1 HP Superflo 2 speed. SF-N2-1A - 230v

    It will produce about 70 GPM on high and 35 GPM on low for typical 2" plumbing.
    Yup. That is what I said too
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    Re: pipe size

    I looked at the flow curves, looks like it will work fine with a bit of reserve gpm.

    Now trying to shop it for best price.

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