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    Pool Started! - Pavers this weekend!

    I have my design out to bid to 3 companies in the Salt Lake City area - pretty nervous. There is not enough pools/competition in the area. Attached a picture, the drawings are actually 3 pages, but I deleted information off the first page so it would be small enough to attach. Wish me luck!

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    Re: Pool Design out to Bid

    My first bid came in from a company that I knew would be on the high side (we have a total of 4 companies bidding), I almost fell out of my chair $147,000?

    The second bid was $88,000, still higher than expected, I was guessing around $75k - $80k, but what a difference between the two. There might be about $20k in "upgrades" on the second bid, but still $127,000?

    I should have the two other bids by tomorrow.

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    Re: Pool Design out to Bid

    Details from 2nd bid, the first bid was about a million pages

    We would like to submit this bid to furnish the labor and materials to construct the pool which plan was submitted job #xxxxx from xxxxx. The following items are included:
    -Building permit
    -Excavation and removal of spoils
    -16 x 44 steel reinforced gunite pool shell according to specified plans
    -1/2 steel rebar used throughout entire pool shell
    -Two 5G color LED underwater pool lights
    -Two surface skimmers
    -Dedicated vacuum line
    -Two Paramount bubblers on tanning ledge
    -suction and return plumbing installed for future slide
    -Poured in place stamped cantilever concrete coping
    -6 band of frost proof waterline tile
    -Matching trim tile on step and bench edges
    -Automatic safety pool cover with concrete box
    -Walk on deck lid kit with stones to match coping for auto cover box
    -Diamond Brite plaster finish
    -Pentair Intelli Flow variable flow circulation pump
    -Pentair Intelli Flow variable flow water feature pump
    -Pentair Clean & Clear Plus 520 cartridge filter
    -Pentair Master Temp 400,000 Btu natural gas pool heater
    -Pentair Intelli Chem chemical automation system, equivalent to BECS unit
    -Stenner 45 feed pump
    -Pentair CO2 feeder and CO2 tank
    -Pentair IntelliZone Ozonator CD-5 without contact vessel
    -Levelor electronic autofill system
    -Specified gauges, thermometers and flow meter
    -SR Smith Swim and Spike volleyball set
    -SR Smith Dual Post Basketball set
    -Vacuum head & hose, 16 extension pole, wall brush, debris skimmer net, water test kit
    -One spring opening and fall winterization
    -Customer training session with ongoing tech support









    Total price for pool construction $88,755



    Items not included in this bid:
    -Engineering
    -Extension of utilities to equipment pad
    -Concrete equipment pad
    -Repair of landscape or sprinkler system
    -Electrical connections at equipment pad

    Additional item pricing:
    -Broom finished colored concrete decking with saw cut joints $6.25/sq.ft. plus pump
    -Hydrazzo polished plaster finish $3,900
    -Electrical connections to pool equipment $850

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    Re: Pool Design out to Bid - does the quoted bid look comple

    Not too many comments on my information, so a direct question, do I need an ozonator? Looks like that is usually installed in commercial pools, is my pool over engineered?

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    Re: Pool Design out to Bid - does the quoted bid look comple

    I'm receiving quotes for a new build in AZ. I don't think you need an ozonator. What about your heater? Could a heat pump work in your climate? More $ up front but huge savings over twenty years in energy savings?
    30' x 17' 14,000 Gallon Play Pool, Aqua Splash Beadcrete Interior, Hayward C7030 Filter, Hayward SP3400VSP Variable Speed Pump, Hayward Turbo-Cell 15 Salt Cell, Baja Shelf w/Periscopic Bubbler, 3 Scupper Water Feature, Paramount In-Floor Cleaning, Aqua Logic PS8 w/Aqua Pod Wireless Controller, TF-100 Test Kit, DM2000 Margaritaville Frozen Concoction Maker!!

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    Re: Pool Design out to Bid - does the quoted bid look comple

    You do not need an ozonator and, in fact, will waste your money if you get one.

    You probably are not getting much response because equipment issues are not all black and white.

    Asking much more specific questions one at a time gives folks the opportunity to answer carefully and not try to cover so many subjects in one post.
    Dave S.
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    Re: Pool Design out to Bid - does the quoted bid look comple

    Wow, what a difference 1500 miles makes.

    What is the CO2 for?

    To heat a pool in Utah I'm thinking geothermal. Heating with NG would get expensive.
    Pool is DONE!
    Pentair Intelliflo VS3050
    Pentair Easy Touch 8 + actuators + swg
    Pentair IntelliPH
    Pentair 400btu HD heater
    3- Jandy WaterColor LED's
    Hayward C5030 525sqft cartridge filter
    Waterway spa blower

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    Re: Pool Design out to Bid - does the quoted bid look comple

    CO2 is for PH control.

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    Re: Pool Design out to Bid - does the quoted bid look comple

    Quote Originally Posted by duraleigh
    Yu do not need an ozonator and, in fact, will waste your money if you get one.

    Yu probably are not getting much response because equipment issues are not all black and white.

    Asking much more specific questions one at a time gives folks the opportunity to answer carefully and not try to cover so many subjects in one post.
    Thanks for the direction on questions, I will ask more specific ones. I wish I was in a an area with a large demand for pools, seems like SLC is just plain higher in price

    I have two more bids still, just threw another company in that a friend recommended.

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    Re: Pool Design out to Bid - does the quoted bid look comple

    Signing a contract today, the company I went with was the lowest (with that being said, I like his work and he has a relationship with my best friend who builds custom homes, so I should be taken care of).

    His bide was right at $73k, the other bids came in at $84k, $92k, $110k and $130k, all from the same exact specs, pretty amazed at the spread???

    He is telling me I will be swimming by the end of May unless weather becomes a huge factor. Pretty excited, I will post pics throughout the process.

    Thanks for all the help from the board members!

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    Re: Pool Design out to Bid - does the quoted bid look comple

    Started the dig today, signed the contract last Saturday and equipment was here Friday, planning on gunite on the 12th.

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    Re: Pool Started!

    Update on 3/6/13 - planning on pouring gunite on 3/12/13.

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    Re: Pool Started!

    Another Pic.

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    Re: Pool Started!

    It's looking good! We are just ahead of you at this point (that could change). Our pools are more similar than different. What brand of autocover are they installing? Ours is Coverstar because that's what the PB uses after doing his research (that and the local folks for them are good). I'm sure the installers/service guys have a lot to do with people's experiences with any cover. I was also interested in Aquamatic. The cover is about 1/3 of the base pool cost for us, excluding decking/walls. Not cheap but I'm really excited about that aspect of the project.

    Here's to good pool building weather!
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    Re: Pool Started!

    We are installing an APC pool cover. The pool company we are using for the install also has a division who represents APC for the area. He promises quick service for life because he represents the specific brand. We looked at a bunch of covers in the process - maybe 4 different manufacturers and they all seemed to be good companies with good products, so not sure how you can go wrong (unless you go cheap with someone small???). Anyway, I will actually be slowing the install down because all the pool equipment except heater will be going into a below ground utility closet not yet built. Probably will add a month or so to the build, but everyone knew that was the case during the bids.

    Good luck with the pool! It is fun to come home from work everyday and see the progress.

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    Re: Pool Started!

    The rebar was delivered last night or way early this morning, so looks like that will start today.

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    Re: Pool Started!

    As of the end of day Saturday, I am amazed at how quickly it goes.

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    Re: Pool Started!

    So, got permit finally!!!! Should have inspection tomorrow (3/21) and gunite either Friday or Monday. I am trying to figure out music?

    I was thinking rock speakers, but most of my yard will be pool and deck. I am now looking at outdoor mounts, one possibility is in-ground mount, that lifts the speakers up a few feet (maybe stainless that can be mounted like a fence post) - any ideas????

    Or mounting directly to my vinyl fence? I am thinking 4 speakers and maybe a sub, all weather proof because they would always be out in the open.

    The speakers are the only real question and mounting, I have a Control 4 system in my house, so amp, remote, etc. is already done - will be able to use my iPad or iPhone to control everything.

    Any thoughts/direction?

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    Re: Pool Started! - gunite 3/25

    Some Progress as of Monday 3/25:

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    Re: Pool Started! - speaker mounting questions?

    3 more pics.

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