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    Gas connections

    A question for the gas experts:
    I am currently overseas, and for the last two years have been using a setup that connects my grill to my main home propane tank. Basically there is a regulator connected to the tank, and then I have a 30' length of rubber hose (the kind used for air-powered tools, such as in an auto repair shop). The hose connects the tank/regulator directly to the grill, and it works perfectly.

    My question is this: is there any problem with this setup? Can I use the same setup for my home in Florida?
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    4) Flow rate of filter is 4000 Gallons/Hr (15k L/H). )
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    Re: Gas connections

    There are hoses and fittings designed for portable gas connections. But please be aware that there is a difference between appliances that use propane and NG. You can't just hookup any gas grill to home's NG supply.
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    Re: Gas connections

    Just to be clear, when you say "the same setup" you mean continuing to use a propane tank with a 30 ft hose correct?
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    Re: Gas connections

    Exactly
    1) 9250 Gallons (35k Litres)
    2) Sandpiper 650 sand filter
    3) IG pool - Waterline tiles,concrete shell with Washington white pebble and diamond brite finish.
    4) Flow rate of filter is 4000 Gallons/Hr (15k L/H). )
    5) Build in 1993, MELB AUS

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    Re: Gas connections

    On the surface I don't know why it would be a problem but I really have no idea if that setup falls under any state regulations. Maybe someone in Florida knows or can point you in the right direction to confirm.
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    Re: Gas connections

    Just on the surface, I have my doubts that it meets code. Having a 30' rubber hose laying on the ground that could easily be damaged and result in an explosion

    But, then what is the legal length of a hose to do this? As I know many people that hook their grills up to home NG supply with rubber hoses. I am certain there are details in the FL code that you would have to investigate to meet code ... but there is still the question of the amount of risk you are accepting.
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    Re: Gas connections

    Do it properly. Run a copper line from the tank or T off of the line that is already there. This is the proper way to do it for propane. Rubber lines/hose are a no no.
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    Re: Gas connections

    As a hvac service tech, in KY and IN all gas connectors must either be hard pipe or an AGA approved gas appliance connector. Thehard pipe is either blblack iron or copper, an AGA approved connector will have some means of protecting the connector hose. Examples of good connectors are corrugated tubing with proprietary ends and requires a certification by the mfgr to install, commercial appliance connectors less than 4ft with a lanyard connected to a quick release, or a special hose material with several layers of internal armor to protect it from being cut. The least expensive solution on lp or propane will be the buried copper line. I tell my customers to have the lp supplier to run the necessary lines and set the pressures properly, the lp company has access to tubing engineered for this purpose and is usually less expensive. I have seen instances of homeowners doing their own gas work and their insurance refuse to pay after a fire. Air hose tubing is not intended for gas and would be dangerous to use. Gas attacks some types of plastics and rubbers, natural gas should never be used with copper. Natural gas is corrosive to copper and will eventually eat through. Please have a trained and bonded servicer do your gas work!!
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