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    Upgrading power panel

    Here is my rusting power panel:




    Id like to replace with a newer intermatic model with digital module.
    What do I do with the pool light (uses the 300w transformer ), the new boxes dont include transformers. Do I replace with a new 120v pool light or, add an external 300w transformer? Thanks.
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    Re: Upgrading power panel

    I'd move the transformer to the new panel or mount it in an external enclosure mounted to the new panel.
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    Re: Upgrading power panel

    Thanks, thats's what I was thinking but, just curious if anybody has converted to 120v bulbs...if that is even possible?
    Is it just low voltage is safer or, do new pools use 120v?
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    Re: Upgrading power panel

    Low voltage is definitely safer. We just had a couple of people in this area die swimming around boat docks that had stray voltage from the dock electrical systems. This was on 2 different lakes.
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    Re: Upgrading power panel

    Also your niches might no be rated for the higher voltage lamps so they'd have to be changed if they're not.
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    Re: Upgrading power panel

    ok, thanks. Looking at options for next years upgrades.
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    Re: Upgrading power panel

    I'd suggest keeping the 12V lighting as it is much safer. The suggestion of moving the existing transformer into the new panel is reasonable, but must be done with extreme care. The code compliant transformers for pool luminaires have special protection to prevent contact between the high and low voltage terminals. The protection afforded by using 12V for the lighting fixtures is completely compromised if that protection is removed. In Intermatic 12V transformers for pools, there is a grounded metal shield between the high and low voltage terminal strips to minimize the potential for passage of high voltage along the low voltage wires. However, removing the transformer itself from the metal box supplied, and then placing this directly in the new panel would eliminate this grounded shield. What does the transformer that you are currently using look like? Also, is the circuit GFCI protected?
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    Re: Upgrading power panel

    http://www.intermatic.com/~/media/In...%20Series.ashx

    I could just replace the panel and add a new digital timer model. My original idea was to replace the panel with smaller digital and then add a separate transformer .

    Digital modules have 3 circuits so I could have the pump, solar and salt (if I add in the future) on timers.
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    Re: Upgrading power panel

    Do you really mean replace what you have with a fully automated system?
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    Re: Upgrading power panel

    I should have said electronic timer, like the intermatic P1353ME module. It would handle my simple water needs w/o the costs of of a full blown controller.
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    Re: Upgrading power panel

    You could upgrade your panel to a full automation system and add electronic control valves for your spa. That way when you want to use your spa you could just do it by the touch of a button and not have to make any manual changes to the valves.
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