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    Using Armor All on liner waterline??

    I am a newbie at TFP and have found this site to be a great source of "spot on" advice and expertise.

    Living in South-West Louisiana,Lake Charles, we get a lot of direct sunlight and high temps that seem to have dried out the liner at and above the water line. The liner started to split about an 1 1/2" below the bead on the North side of the deep end.

    I just installed a new liner and was wondering if any one has heard of applying "Armor All" to the liner at the water line, every couple of months. This was a suggestion I got from the supplier that I purchased the liner from. I have not tried it yet, but it doesn't seem, at first blush, to be a bad idea.

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    Re: Using Armor All on liner waterline??

    Welcome. Apply lightly to towel as to not mix any in pool. Let us know how it goes.
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    Re: Using Armor All on liner waterline??

    I dont do liners but looking at this quote from a liner company, it seems like the opposite thing to do. It will just collect dirt.

    Here are some notes I came across that seem to make sense.

    Clean the vinyl liner at the water line of all residue and scum that will
    accumulate as a result of people using the pool and all substances
    floating at the surface of the water like suntan oil, dust, dirt etc. Take
    special care to clean any area at the water surface where the sun hits
    directly for a long period of the day. DO NOT USE ABRASIVE PADS
    OR ANY CLEANER THAT IS ABRASIVE. Use a dealer-approved vinyl
    cleaner and apply it with a sponge.
    Suntan oil badly stains vinyl due to iodine and other caustic
    chemicals it contains. Without proper removal, these chemicals will
    become baked on by the sun and will eat away the finish of the vinyl.
    Ultimately, the stains will degrade the vinyl, causing it to crack and
    break. The combination of sunshine, pool chlorine and suntan oil is
    fatal to vinyl.

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    Re: Using Armor All on liner waterline??

    Armor-All isn't good for any kind of vinyl. Some manufacturers of upholstery specifically recommend against it.
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    Re: Using Armor All on liner waterline??

    With what Just-a-PB said, won't simply keeping your chem balanced and proper filtration keep the suntan oils filtered out and the waterline properly maintained with correct balances?

    That seems like an aaaawwwfffuuulll lot of work to have to go around your pool, scrubbing the waterline with a cleaner every time you get out of the pool. Like anyone will do that for very long.
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    Re: Using Armor All on liner waterline??

    I have found that brushing alone does the job pretty well, but have also used a magic eraser with a lot of success. I've also seen a cleaner at the pool store specifically for this, so I would probably try those before armor all.
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    Re: Using Armor All on liner waterline??

    I wondered if brushing alone would be sufficient.

    What if one were building a pool and using a vinyl liner. Couldn't you just put tile at the water line to prevent any problems there, or is that not possible with vinyl?
    Thanks for reading... - Tony
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    Re: Using Armor All on liner waterline??

    Quote Originally Posted by y_not
    I wondered if brushing alone would be sufficient.

    What if one were building a pool and using a vinyl liner. Couldn't you just put tile at the water line to prevent any problems there, or is that not possible with vinyl?
    Didn't Duraleigh do that?
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    Re: Using Armor All on liner waterline??

    I spoke on the phone for a lengthy amount of time and the representative for aerospace protectant 303 said it can be used on pool vinyl and he knows of many customers that do.
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    Re: Using Armor All on liner waterline??

    Quote Originally Posted by UnderWaterVanya
    Quote Originally Posted by y_not
    I wondered if brushing alone would be sufficient.

    What if one were building a pool and using a vinyl liner. Couldn't you just put tile at the water line to prevent any problems there, or is that not possible with vinyl?
    Didn't Duraleigh do that?
    an-unusual-pool-build-t10597.html
    Great minds think alike!
    That's super cool UWV, thanks man.
    Thanks for reading... - Tony
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    Re: Using Armor All on liner waterline??

    Quote Originally Posted by X-PertPool
    I spoke on the phone for a lengthy amount of time and the representative for aerospace protectant 303 said it can be used on pool vinyl and he knows of many customers that do.
    What is this compared to Armor All?
    It hasn't yet been mention in the thread.

    So it's safe for vinyl, unlike the thread topic product?
    Thanks for reading... - Tony
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    Re: Using Armor All on liner waterline??

    [quote=y_not][quote=UnderWaterVanya]
    Quote Originally Posted by y_not":3la0gjdq]I wondered if brushing alone would be sufficient.

    What if one were building a pool and using a vinyl liner. Couldn't you just put tile at the water line to prevent any problems there, or is that not possible with vinyl?[/quote]

    Didn't Duraleigh do that?
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    That's super cool UWV, thanks man. [/quote:3la0gjdq]
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    Re: Using Armor All on liner waterline??

    Yeah 303 is a universal protector some people have said it's much better compared to armor all. Google it for there website there is lots of info there.
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    Re: Using Armor All on liner waterline??

    303 is a very good product (not cheap though) and many marine manufacturers recommend it for protecting the vinyl upholstery in boats.
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