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    Broken Ladder and other questions - POOL NEWBIE

    Hey guys,

    I bought a house about a year ago and kept the pool guy that maintained it in the past. He sold his business and every since I've struggled with green water. I've learned from your site and the local pool store that I must drain about half my water because my CYA was was too high. So I've drained about 2/3 of my pool. I figured while the water was low I should do some other maintenance.

    The pool light has never worked so I've taken that out, however, I can't seem to find the switch to turn the pool light on, perhaps someone down the line "killed it". I'll higher an electrician to figure this one out. Perhaps I'm missing something here?

    More pressing, is the broken ladder step. I can't figure out how to fix/replace this. We don't use the ladder, so I am even up to chiseling out the broken step and patching the hole. Any thoughts?

    Also, any ideas on how to best replace the bricks that make up the coping?

    Any other stuff you guys recommend before putting water back in the pool?

    If I decided to put in a SWG, any recommendations?

    Pictures below.

    Thanks for the help.

    -Scott
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    Re: Broken Ladder and other questions - POOL NEWBIE

    Depends on how handy you are. You can buy replacement steps pretty cheaply. If you're careful, you can chisel out the old step and reset it using a waterproof cement. More challenging will be blending the chipped out area with the rest of the pool. White waterproof cement may work, or you can try your hand at mixing up some marcite (it will never match, but may be good enough).

    The light fixture in your picture is shot, it needs to be replaced. The niche doesn't look too good either, however you're stuck with that.

    The other end of the cord should end in a junction box, from there the wiring will go to a switch or electrical source of some sort. Replacing the light fixture will do no good unless there is power at the junction box.

    Good luck
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    Re: Broken Ladder and other questions - POOL NEWBIE

    Thanks Qwaxalot.

    Any recommendations on where to find a matching pool step. I can't seem to find one online. Also, I've checked Home Depot and Lowes for waterproof cement and they don't have it - is there some other name I should be calling it? The water level is currently lower than the step, so does this have to be waterproof cement. I'm leaning toward chiseling out the step and patching the hole. It is August and South Texas is HOT (and my family is missing the pool). I need to get this done (but done right).

    Thanks,
    Scott

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    A 2-part epoxy will work....it is sold in gallon cans at HD or Lowe's can't remember who makes it. You will have to paint to match surrounding but it is workable/pliable and you can get the texture correct if you are careful. I don't know if you can still get that step, though.
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    Re: Broken Ladder and other questions - POOL NEWBIE

    Just to make sure on the epoxy - will this work?
    http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R ... DAONN1lTng

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    Re: Broken Ladder and other questions - POOL NEWBIE

    If the cord is there have an electrician put a circuit locator on it.
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    Re: Broken Ladder and other questions - POOL NEWBIE

    Just to make sure on the epoxy - will this work?
    Yep, that's it. Plan on doing it in layers if you patch rather than replace. The first fill will sag somewhat but you can easily come back with multiple layers and make it near perfect.
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    Re: Broken Ladder and other questions - POOL NEWBIE

    You guys are AWESOME. Thanks for the advice.

    I've had to order the epoxy, as my local stores don't carry it. I've put a rush on the shipping, but as it is Sunday, I don't expect it in until Tuesday. My pool will have to sit 2/3 empty for the next few days as I make the repairs. Some of the local pool owners have cautioned me on this - is this really a problem?

    Another question - I have a hayward light. I've thought about replacing it with a hayward colorlogic LED (I have two daughters who would "dig" this). Any review or thoughts on this?

    Thanks again.

    -Scott

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    Re: Broken Ladder and other questions - POOL NEWBIE

    Quote Originally Posted by strudeau
    Thanks Qwaxalot.

    Any recommendations on where to find a matching pool step. I can't seem to find one online. Also, I've checked Home Depot and Lowes for waterproof cement and they don't have it - is there some other name I should be calling it? The water level is currently lower than the step, so does this have to be waterproof cement. I'm leaning toward chiseling out the step and patching the hole. It is August and South Texas is HOT (and my family is missing the pool). I need to get this done (but done right).

    Thanks,
    Scott
    You'll need to locate a distributor who supplies pool builders. Those steps are still used and should be readily available. The cement I was referring to was white water stopping cement, also known as "pool patch", available from the same source as the step (although the epoxy, that you already ordered, should work).
    In the industry, CSP (Certified Service Professional) by the NSPI and it's successor the APSP. My company services over 600 pools every year. I think the practices regularly espoused on this forum (especially the BBB method) are outstanding; however my comments will be often oriented towards the goal of getting it done, and getting it done right now!

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