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    Feedback from first 3 months of using BBB method

    first year using TFP advice and a K2006 test kit - previous 14 years only tested for Chlorine and PH - and used the Frog system.
    this year, no frog system expensive stuff and all key levels based on TFP recommendations.

    Water quality this year is best ever so far, only adding 2 to 3 gallons of bleach per week and still keeping FC at 3.0, but I do use a floater with trichlor tabs just to be safe. I only shocked once this year to open. In previous years I was shocking weekly, using lots of chlorine powder but I probably had CYA levels of zero. I am assuming my CYA of 40 to 50 is protecting my FC from burning up in the sun.

    current levels 8/12
    FC = 3.0
    CC = 0.0
    PH = 7.5
    TA = 260
    CYA = 52
    Water Temp = 80.

    I have to get FC up to 4.0 per the Chlorine/CYA chart, but should I be concerned about lowering CYA? or is this almost ideal?
    24K gal, plaster, concrete decking, cantelivered coping, 20 years old, raised attached stone spa - 1 1/2 HP purex triton pump, 3 yr old 48 sq ft Pentair DE filter with multiport, Polaris 380 w/pump, 2 yr old Pentair mastertemp 400k heater - live in southeastern PA outside phila.

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    Re: Feedback from first 3 months of using BBB method

    CYA around 50ppm is fine but you are continuing to add CYA by using the pucks.

    I'm not sure what you mean when you say you are using them "just to be safe".
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    Re: Feedback from first 3 months of using BBB method

    I guess I am afraid of FC dropping if I don't test for couple days.

    in your opinion, would I be better off not using the pucks, because they increase the CYA levels? just stick with liquid bleach and occasional powder (I have left over powder from last season)
    24K gal, plaster, concrete decking, cantelivered coping, 20 years old, raised attached stone spa - 1 1/2 HP purex triton pump, 3 yr old 48 sq ft Pentair DE filter with multiport, Polaris 380 w/pump, 2 yr old Pentair mastertemp 400k heater - live in southeastern PA outside phila.

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    Re: Feedback from first 3 months of using BBB method

    i would just use bleach no powder or pucks they will continue to add cya and 50 ppm for a non swg pool is about perfect, what i do is test mine every evening about 8:30 pm and i add enough bleach to bring mine up to 8 ppm which is a couple above my target per my cya of 50 and by the next night with all day sunlight and moderate swimmer load i lose between 2 and 3 ppm which is still plenty safe above my 3 ppm minimum, but all pools are different, that works for me and i have never had a problem......Mike
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    Re: Feedback from first 3 months of using BBB method

    As Fastchev and duraleigh said, do not use any more pucks.

    Quote Originally Posted by jp4120
    occasional powder (I have left over powder from last season)
    What is the powder? Is it dichlor or calhypo? If calhypo, what is your CH level?
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    Re: Feedback from first 3 months of using BBB method

    my CH is 260 - and the powder is Leslie's power powder plus so its Cal Hypo.
    24K gal, plaster, concrete decking, cantelivered coping, 20 years old, raised attached stone spa - 1 1/2 HP purex triton pump, 3 yr old 48 sq ft Pentair DE filter with multiport, Polaris 380 w/pump, 2 yr old Pentair mastertemp 400k heater - live in southeastern PA outside phila.

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    Re: Feedback from first 3 months of using BBB method

    Since you TA is high, even though your CH is not too bad, I would stop using the calhypo. See: http://www.troublefreepool.com/pool-...alcium_scaling
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    Teedback from first 3 months of using BBB method

    I listed my TA too high in a previous post.
    here are the correct measurements.
    TA=70, CH=260, CYA=50
    24K gal, plaster, concrete decking, cantelivered coping, 20 years old, raised attached stone spa - 1 1/2 HP purex triton pump, 3 yr old 48 sq ft Pentair DE filter with multiport, Polaris 380 w/pump, 2 yr old Pentair mastertemp 400k heater - live in southeastern PA outside phila.

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    Re: Feedback from first 3 months of using BBB method

    Oh, that is better

    Then just keep track of your CH since you will add to it every time you use calhypo. Our commendation is 250-350 ppm CH for plaster pools (but of course other parameters can play in here...see the link I posted above).
    TFP Expert who uses Pool School and my TF100 test kit along with PoolMath for my: Round 11K gallon AGP with deep end, 20" sand filter, Matrix 1hp 2spd, 6 2ftX20ft solar panels (and solar cover!), Intex SWCG (copper bars disconnected) and a Rubadub hot tub (chlorine). The SLAM process is not finished until: 1. CC < 0.5 ppm, 2. An OCLT < 1.0 ppm and, 3. The water is crystal clear.

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    Re: Feedback from first 3 months of using BBB method

    started using liquid bleach only, no powder or pucks.
    first year using BBB method - with great results, usually have green algae spots by mid Aug, and this year no algae yet.

    wondering if my liquid bleach usage is typical or better/worse, seems great to me, I used to shock weekly plus use the frog system.
    1.42 gallons about every 2 days (half bottle each day) for 27/28,000 gallon pool. so about $10 / week for chlorine., this keeps my levels between 2 and 4/5 - also haven't shocked all season (4 mth season 5/15 to 9/15)
    24K gal, plaster, concrete decking, cantelivered coping, 20 years old, raised attached stone spa - 1 1/2 HP purex triton pump, 3 yr old 48 sq ft Pentair DE filter with multiport, Polaris 380 w/pump, 2 yr old Pentair mastertemp 400k heater - live in southeastern PA outside phila.

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    Re: Feedback from first 3 months of using BBB method

    Your chlorine usage seems reasonable to me
    TFP Expert who uses Pool School and my TF100 test kit along with PoolMath for my: Round 11K gallon AGP with deep end, 20" sand filter, Matrix 1hp 2spd, 6 2ftX20ft solar panels (and solar cover!), Intex SWCG (copper bars disconnected) and a Rubadub hot tub (chlorine). The SLAM process is not finished until: 1. CC < 0.5 ppm, 2. An OCLT < 1.0 ppm and, 3. The water is crystal clear.

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