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    Removing pool light, screw issues...

    I'm trying to help a neighbor our with replacing their bulb in the pool light. The problem I'm encountering is that the screw unscrews about 3/4 of the way and then it gets stuck and won't turn any more with a screw driver. I am able to screw it back in but I can't get it all the way out. Should I just get a pair of needle nose vise grips and and just clamp it on the threads and hopefully get it all the way out and then replace the screw with a new one or is there some other way to get this darn screw out? Luckily there is only one screw to contend with. My light has four.

    Thanks for your help.
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    Re: Removing pool light, screw issues...

    Be careful you don't break it! It would be really hard to drill out that one.

    Are you sure it's not designed to unscrew only so far, so that you can't drop it into the pool?
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    Re: Removing pool light, screw issues...

    No I am not sure, could be. So then does it just pull out or something? I noticed it is obviously attached to the stainless outside trim ring so it doesn't drop in the pool because when unscrewing the entire light comes out of the niche but the screw never backs off the ring, but I thought it should at least unscrew all the way out. I know mine does but it's newer.
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    Re: Removing pool light, screw issues...

    This one shows and e-clip. They have plenty of pictures of other brands on this website, too. http://www.poolcenter.com/parts_pool_li ... _pools.htm
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    Re: Removing pool light, screw issues...

    OK so I guess once the screw stops turning I just pull on it to make it come out?? The retainer clip keeps the screw from coming out of the retaining ring so I get that. I just thought like my light once the screw was all the way out the light would just plop out. I'll try a gentle tug and see what happens. I sure don't want to break anything in that niche.
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    Re: Removing pool light, screw issues...

    Any update?
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    Re: Removing pool light, screw issues...

    Haven't had a chance to get back over there yet.

    So you think I should just be able to pull it out once the screw stops turning?
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    Re: Removing pool light, screw issues...

    So I went back and I unscrewed the screw as far as it would go, then I tried pulling on the light and it was a no go. So something is holding the screw in and letting it come out of the niche frame. Strange. I just checked mine and when you unscrew it the light just falls out into your hands.
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    Re: Removing pool light, screw issues...

    Quote Originally Posted by ps0303
    So I went back and I unscrewed the screw as far as it would go, then I tried pulling on the light and it was a no go. So something is holding the screw in and letting it come out of the niche frame. Strange. I just checked mine and when you unscrew it the light just falls out into your hands.
    Try putting a screwdriver between the trim ring and the light niche. Pry out on the trim ring while trying to back out the screw.

    If you do break it, you can get a "light wedge" to replace it
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    Re: Removing pool light, screw issues...

    Light wedge? Great idea. Didn't know such a thing existed.
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    Re: Removing pool light, screw issues...

    I have the same light fixture in my pool but the original screw has been replaced with an ordinary stainless steel screw. Even when the screw is completely removed, I have to use a screwdriver to pry out the trim ring from the light niche. It never just pops out.
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    Re: Removing pool light, screw issues...

    I did try a "gentle" prying between the niche and the back side of the trim rung and it didn't seem to move. I guess I was a bit worried it would break and then I would have another issue on my hands. However, now knowing that there is the wedge, I won't have any worries if I break it. Of course first I would try to NOT break it.
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    Re: Removing pool light, screw issues...

    Quote Originally Posted by ps0303
    I did try a "gentle" prying between the niche and the back side of the trim rung and it didn't seem to move. I guess I was a bit worried it would break and then I would have another issue on my hands. However, now knowing that there is the wedge, I won't have any worries if I break it. Of course first I would try to NOT break it.
    Press a little harder then, and turn the screw back and forth. The "Light wedge" is made by "Pool Tool", if your local supplier doesn't have it, google it.
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