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    new here, want to start BBB

    Hello!

    Wish I heard about BBB when we installed our AG in June! Want to switch from trichlor tabs to BBB!

    My TF-100 results:
    FC - 8
    CC - 1
    PH - 7.2
    TA - 80
    CH - 50
    CYA - 50

    Any advice would be appreciated!
    Morada RTR Supreme AG Pool, Oval 12'x17'x54" 5,400 gallons, Pentair CC75 Cartridge Filter w/1 HP Pump, installed 6/22/12, TF-100, BBB

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    Re: new here, want to start BBB

    YOur numbers aren't bad....what does your water look like?
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    Re: new here, want to start BBB

    water is clear
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    Re: new here, want to start BBB

    1ppm CC is fairly suspect however. No?
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    Re: new here, want to start BBB

    Well, if you do have a CC of 1, a quick shock is probably in order. That would be what I would do anyway.

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    Re: new here, want to start BBB

    Welcome to tfp, Liz91899

    I agree with the others, CC of 1 ppm means you have organics in the pool, and you need to do the shocking process.
    TFP Expert who uses Pool School and my TF100 test kit along with PoolMath for my: Round 11K gallon AGP with deep end, 20" sand filter, Matrix 1hp 2spd, 6 2ftX20ft solar panels (and solar cover!), Intex SWCG (copper bars disconnected) and a Rubadub hot tub (chlorine). The SLAM process is not finished until: 1. CC < 0.5 ppm, 2. An OCLT < 1.0 ppm and, 3. The water is crystal clear.

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    Re: new here, want to start BBB

    While a CC of 1ppm is not good, you could actually give it another day of testing before you start the shock process.

    Since your water is clear, I would just elevate the chlorine up to about 20ppm tonight and then check your CC's in the morning.

    If it has dropped to .5ppm or less, there is no need to shock and you can let FC drift back down to normal.
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    Re: new here, want to start BBB

    Tested again
    FC - 10
    CC - 1
    PH - 7.2
    TA - 80
    CH - 50
    CYA - 50

    My CC is still at 1. How slowly do I pour the bleach in the pool this evening? Thanks for all the replies.
    Morada RTR Supreme AG Pool, Oval 12'x17'x54" 5,400 gallons, Pentair CC75 Cartridge Filter w/1 HP Pump, installed 6/22/12, TF-100, BBB

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    Re: new here, want to start BBB

    Quote Originally Posted by Liz91899
    Tested again
    FC - 10
    CC - 1
    PH - 7.2
    TA - 80
    CH - 50
    CYA - 50

    My CC is still at 1. How slowly do I pour the bleach in the pool this evening? Thanks for all the replies.
    Slow enough that it doesn't splash, do it right in front of the return and you should see the cloud spread out and disperse.
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    How long do I run the filter? Thanks
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    Re: new here, want to start BBB

    Quote Originally Posted by Liz91899
    How long do I run the filter? Thanks
    Generally, it's recommended you run the pump for half an hour after adding chemicals to let them mix. However, since you're performing essentially an abbreviated shock process, I'd let it run all night. If it's too noisy or whatever, run it as long as you can, and get in there with a brush to be sure it's totally mixed, no dead spots in the circulation.

    Have you read ?
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    Thank you, Richard Yes, I read pool school.
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    Re: new here, want to start BBB

    The sun will be quite helpful tomorrow in burning off the CC's so I hope you get sun, and if so, test later in the day giving the sun a chance to work.
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    I've been walking around my pool with Bleach (other times Borax...) and adding maybe 1/6 of container in front of each jet. So it takes me maybe 2 minutes to empty a container then rinse. Some at each jet waiting just a bit between. Does this sound like a good way to continue adding chemicals when needed?
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    cartridge filter (cleaned monthly), Pump (8 hours/day) w/chrlor tabs inline, also use Chlorine liquid,
    Polaris 380 (3 hours/day), empty skim baskets & brush steps/deck & where cleaner can't reach daily.

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    Re: new here, want to start BBB

    My TF-100 today results:
    FC - 14
    CC - .5
    PH - 7.5
    TA - 90
    CH - 50
    CYA - 50

    I raised my FC to 20 Monday night to lower my CC: 1. Didn't test yesterday, the weather was cloudy with some sun. Is it safe for the kids to swim in it today with the FC at 14?
    Morada RTR Supreme AG Pool, Oval 12'x17'x54" 5,400 gallons, Pentair CC75 Cartridge Filter w/1 HP Pump, installed 6/22/12, TF-100, BBB

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    Re: new here, want to start BBB

    Quote Originally Posted by Liz91899
    My TF-100 today results:
    FC - 14
    CC - .5
    PH - 7.5
    TA - 90
    CH - 50
    CYA - 50

    I raised my FC to 20 Monday night to lower my CC: 1. Didn't test yesterday, the weather was cloudy with some sun. Is it safe for the kids to swim in it today with the FC at 14?
    The water is clear? Then, yes, because FC is below shock level.

    You really ought to run the overnight loss test to be sure it's all dead. Because if it isn't, you're still soooo close it would be a shame to not deliver the death blow.
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    Water is very clear. Should I shock it because my CC is 0.5 or just do the overnight test?
    Morada RTR Supreme AG Pool, Oval 12'x17'x54" 5,400 gallons, Pentair CC75 Cartridge Filter w/1 HP Pump, installed 6/22/12, TF-100, BBB

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    Re: new here, want to start BBB

    Quote Originally Posted by Liz91899
    Water is very clear. Should I shock it because my CC is 0.5 or just do the overnight test?
    Sigh....

    I thought you were undertaking the shock process? If not, then why do you have such high FC?

    The three tests to know when you're done with the shock process:
    CC is 0.5 or lower;
    An overnight FC loss test shows a loss of 1.0 ppm or less;
    And the water is clear.

    You have two of the three for sure. All that's left is the overnight loss test. If that passes, you can let FC drift down to normal levels.
    16K freeform gunite with spa; Pentair 4000 DE filter; Century Whisperflow 1 HP; Pentair Minimax heater.
    Troublefree does not mean Maintenancefree. It's like brushing your teeth: You can spend a couple minutes a day and pennies a week or go to the dentist once a year and spend several thousand dollars.
    A pool is like a pet - you have to feed it every day, even the days you don't want to play with it!

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    Re: new here, want to start BBB

    My TF-100 today results:
    FC - 2.5 + CC - .5 = TC - 3
    PH - 7.1
    TA - 80
    CH - 420
    CYA - 70 I think, this is a hard one to be sure...
    Water is perhaps 85% clear (been clearing every day since I started attempting BBB). Filter cleaned Sunday, showing good.

    So I am thinking add a little chlorine via bleach, then a little Borax to raise PH to optimal.
    How are the other numbers and advice? Brushing every day. Not much of anything anywhere except dust on shallow deck where pool cleaner does not go.

    Thanks.
    DARaynor - weaning off Leslie's poor service & high prices, too many chems!
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    cartridge filter (cleaned monthly), Pump (8 hours/day) w/chrlor tabs inline, also use Chlorine liquid,
    Polaris 380 (3 hours/day), empty skim baskets & brush steps/deck & where cleaner can't reach daily.

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    Re: new here, want to start BBB

    Richard, I misunderstood when 257wbymag suggested a quick shock. I thought a quick shock is just to raise my FC to 20 with one bleach application. I also thought my CC needed to be at 0.

    My other problem is we are going away Thursday-Sunday. Do I throw a couple of pucks in the floater or have my neighbour put in bleach?
    Morada RTR Supreme AG Pool, Oval 12'x17'x54" 5,400 gallons, Pentair CC75 Cartridge Filter w/1 HP Pump, installed 6/22/12, TF-100, BBB

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